Tesla was just found to be the most dangerous car brand, at literally double the national average of fatalities per billion miles. (National average 2.8, Tesla 5.6 fatalities per billion miles.) The model Y has above 10 fatalities per billion miles. Insurance companies are refusing to insure the Cybertruck and some places are refusing to allow them to park. People have burned alive in Tesla vehicles because they couldn't figure out how to open the doors.
I don't know that engineering principles that lead to horrific deaths and uninsurable vehicles are sound engineering strategies.
And I know some folks are going to say, "but spaceX!" To which I'll say, "Gwynne Shotwell runs that show. That company does everything it can to avoid letting Musk touch things".
Twitter has been steadily declining. Their competitors are absolutely skyrocketing in popularity in no small part to engineering decisions at Twitter. (Though, admittedly, that one is probably less an engineering failure than a policy one.)
But what about the Boring Company, they've... made a few small tunnels I guess?
If these are the results of his engineering principles, I think maybe there's good reason to consider whether they might actually be more harmful than beneficial.
"The study's authors make clear that the results do not indicate Tesla vehicles are inherently unsafe or have design flaws." ...
"So, why are Teslas — and many other ostensibly safe cars on the list — involved in so many fatal crashes? “The models on this list likely reflect a combination of driver behavior and driving conditions, leading to increased crashes and fatalities,” iSeeCars executive analyst Karl Brauer said in the report. “A focused, alert driver, traveling at a legal or prudent speed, without being under the influence of drugs or alcohol, is the most likely to arrive safely regardless of the vehicle they’re driving."
They're common in places I go. And once the "that's interesting" factor wears off, they just kind of look unbalanced and awkward to my eyes. Sort of the physical embodiment of someone with no taste trying to be cool. The automotive equivalent of ab implants. People around here talk a tremendous amount of shit about them, which is pretty funny.
Not really a good counterpoint to being a fascist though, Nazis loved factories as well.
While being a big factories guy he's not really a big fan of unions or following the laws and customs of countries with strong labour movement, hence the ongoing dispute with Tesla workshops in Sweden for over a year (with new breaches of the Co-Determination Act just last month [0]).
That someone with first-hand experience is definitely not Musk whose only first-hand expertise is in conning people out of their money, and, of late, in tweeting hate speech and conspiracy theories 24/7
You know that what you say would be considered "hate speech" were you supporting the opposite side. The term is subjective and seems to mean "something I strongly don't like". We won't ever get to a situation where everyone likes everyone. You should instead look into the specific topics and debate over them specifically (including those "camps"): the laws still hold - point out what and how is wrong when you see it.
I think it's fair to deny his brilliance, totally independence of his politics. Don't confuse money with brilliance, and don't confuse "I can pay for the best minds" with "I am among the best minds".
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[ 3.6 ms ] story [ 71.2 ms ] threadI don't know that engineering principles that lead to horrific deaths and uninsurable vehicles are sound engineering strategies.
And I know some folks are going to say, "but spaceX!" To which I'll say, "Gwynne Shotwell runs that show. That company does everything it can to avoid letting Musk touch things".
Twitter has been steadily declining. Their competitors are absolutely skyrocketing in popularity in no small part to engineering decisions at Twitter. (Though, admittedly, that one is probably less an engineering failure than a policy one.)
But what about the Boring Company, they've... made a few small tunnels I guess?
If these are the results of his engineering principles, I think maybe there's good reason to consider whether they might actually be more harmful than beneficial.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a62919131/tesla-has-highes...
"The study's authors make clear that the results do not indicate Tesla vehicles are inherently unsafe or have design flaws." ...
"So, why are Teslas — and many other ostensibly safe cars on the list — involved in so many fatal crashes? “The models on this list likely reflect a combination of driver behavior and driving conditions, leading to increased crashes and fatalities,” iSeeCars executive analyst Karl Brauer said in the report. “A focused, alert driver, traveling at a legal or prudent speed, without being under the influence of drugs or alcohol, is the most likely to arrive safely regardless of the vehicle they’re driving."
EDIT: https://www.iseecars.com/most-dangerous-cars-study#v=2024
Model 3 not on the list.
There aren't a lot of details on the methodology. I'd like to see someone else crunch the numbers.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42151851
Unless they're owned by the State and administered by the proles, in which case they are totally righteous.
While being a big factories guy he's not really a big fan of unions or following the laws and customs of countries with strong labour movement, hence the ongoing dispute with Tesla workshops in Sweden for over a year (with new breaches of the Co-Determination Act just last month [0]).
You know who else hated unions? The Nazis :)
[0] https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/swedish-union-files-l...
(Just ask Lech Walesa)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism_in_North_America
Nothing personal, I would say the same thing for Henry Ford, a huge antisemite.
This becomes much easier if you don't find yourself in a primitive consumption-based economy.
Everybody in these comments wants to hate on the "fascist" - I'm here to hate on the system that created him.