[–] gnabgib 1y ago ↗ Related (the indefinite pause) The Death of NYC Congestion Pricing (171 points, 5 months ago, 365 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40817079
[–] cute_boi 1y ago ↗ This looks good on theory, but as with many government plans, this is another tax.It would be great if they can use this congestion fee to improve public transportation. Will it happen? Nope. [–] bluesnews 1y ago ↗ Even just reducing traffic, noise and pollution is a pro. [–] ronsor 1y ago ↗ You can't reduce the demand for going to work or shopping for groceries. Arguably the real problem is we've put too much in too small a space. [–] noisycarlos 1y ago ↗ No, but it does help incentivize people to do those things using transit, or at non-rush hours and gives less traffic to everyone else.It doesn't work if there aren't alternatives, of course. But NY and London do have them. [–] dessimus 1y ago ↗ I can not imagine there is a statistically relevant number of people that travel to Manhattan to specifically to grocery shop. [–] tadfisher 1y ago ↗ NYC has the best public transit in the country, and they spend a lot on it. It's one of the few places in North America where congestion pricing could even work.
[–] bluesnews 1y ago ↗ Even just reducing traffic, noise and pollution is a pro. [–] ronsor 1y ago ↗ You can't reduce the demand for going to work or shopping for groceries. Arguably the real problem is we've put too much in too small a space. [–] noisycarlos 1y ago ↗ No, but it does help incentivize people to do those things using transit, or at non-rush hours and gives less traffic to everyone else.It doesn't work if there aren't alternatives, of course. But NY and London do have them. [–] dessimus 1y ago ↗ I can not imagine there is a statistically relevant number of people that travel to Manhattan to specifically to grocery shop.
[–] ronsor 1y ago ↗ You can't reduce the demand for going to work or shopping for groceries. Arguably the real problem is we've put too much in too small a space. [–] noisycarlos 1y ago ↗ No, but it does help incentivize people to do those things using transit, or at non-rush hours and gives less traffic to everyone else.It doesn't work if there aren't alternatives, of course. But NY and London do have them. [–] dessimus 1y ago ↗ I can not imagine there is a statistically relevant number of people that travel to Manhattan to specifically to grocery shop.
[–] noisycarlos 1y ago ↗ No, but it does help incentivize people to do those things using transit, or at non-rush hours and gives less traffic to everyone else.It doesn't work if there aren't alternatives, of course. But NY and London do have them.
[–] dessimus 1y ago ↗ I can not imagine there is a statistically relevant number of people that travel to Manhattan to specifically to grocery shop.
[–] tadfisher 1y ago ↗ NYC has the best public transit in the country, and they spend a lot on it. It's one of the few places in North America where congestion pricing could even work.
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[ 3.6 ms ] story [ 51.3 ms ] threadIt would be great if they can use this congestion fee to improve public transportation. Will it happen? Nope.
It doesn't work if there aren't alternatives, of course. But NY and London do have them.