Ask HN: Why is there such little political discourse on HN at the moment?
Seems like there are few stories or comments around the many tech related issues regarding DEI, investments, company pivots, trade, and geo-political territories. Not that there should be more, but it seems like there is less.
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[ 4.5 ms ] story [ 103 ms ] threadPolitics has always made up a large part of HN discourse. You can verify this by hitting the firebase API, or just use the search field at the bottom of the page and look into some past discussions around terms like 'Iraq' or 'guantanamo'.
I keep reading about tech news on websites where I’d have expected so see it here first: that was a reason to ask.
* automatic downranks and delisting from FP, algorithmically by HN
* manual flagging by the users
@dang says there’s little to no manual moderation, but over the years the site has been tuned to only allow a little bit of political discussion
Here are a few useful recent comments by @dang about it:
* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42949237
* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42911011
> Since some people perceive discussion quality to be (relatively) high on HN
It’s really not at the moment on so many discussion worthy topics. I get it, there will be the same old tropes and opinions but HN does a great job of cutting through the noise and unveiling interesting perspectives.
I’m surprised and a little disappointed. And left wondering where to find the discussions on such topics that are worth reading.
I'd generally defer to actual use as well-known reality, rather than unqualified abuse. If that causes problems with platform goals, then the system should build in checks on such impacts, as HN has.
Hn loves discussing airplanes, but nothing about elons wreckless approach to the faa going forward can be discussed because users are flagging?
Also: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30376111> (2022).
Point remains that the best way to resolve this isn't snark or whinging on threads, but emails to mods. They (dang and others) are well aware of this limitation and have occasionally expressed frustrations. Member-based moderation works relatively well, for much discussion, but does have some profound limitations. Acknowledge and work with those.
I don't expect to resolve it, I'm just a passer by, it's not my website. I'm fammilar with the mostly hands off approach the mods want to take towards topics here.
Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents, and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data.
Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.
<https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html>
(Flagging here is effectively a type of voting behaviour.)
As to issues with HN's collaborative filtering (voting, flagging, vouching) features, dang's addressed that:
Sure there's abuse of the flagging system; there's abuse of everything. But HN's system as a whole (consisting of community, moderators, and software) has countervailing mechanisms for that and other abuses....
<https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22153315>
This original posts topic is about how posts are voted on also. It is on topic in this case
Take it up with the mods in email if you have further concerns.
Does that answer your question?
That email backlog is apparently expanding, ~12--24 hours per dang's recent comments, so both expect and respect that.
For general-purpose abuse, I prefer simply flagging.
To disable flags on an article I'll email mods, that occurs fairly rarely.
If an account seems to be flagrantly violating HN Guidelines, and has had previous warnings (you can use the replies endpoint to find those: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42571073>), I'll drop an email as well.
They don't want to admit it but the truth is that they're all in to the current coup that's happening in Washington right now. That's turning into a fact every single day now.
I say despite.. because I judge engagement as a net negative much of the time: I prefer to read HN than write into it, and when I write, I judge myself harshly. I'm writing too much into the politics discussions.
2. It will almost certainly be around after homo sapiens.
3. Are these projects in the USA?
4. Is anything preventing NGOs from more efficiently taking up the slack?
5. Why is malaria important to you of all things?
6. Have you ever had to worry about contacting malaria?
7. Isn't this good for ivermectin manufacturers?
> 2. It will almost certainly be around after homo sapiens.
Most illnesses have been around for as long as humans have been around. Yet we still heal the sick.
3. Are these projects in the USA?
They fight malaria around the world.
4. Is anything preventing NGOs from more efficiently taking up the slack?
NGOs including the Gates Foundation also spend billions fighting malaria and other diseases.
5. Why is malaria important to you of all things?
Over a thousand children die every day from malaria.
6. Have you ever had to worry about contacting malaria?
Yes.
7. Isn't this good for ivermectin manufacturers?
It sounds like you find this amusing. Why is 1000 children dying every day funny to you?
All tech is vanity. If you want to survive the coming collapse learn to live as wild humans. Become hard. Make a living from the land as your ancestors did. Learn how to solve real problems. The future is dark. Only the smart and the strong will survive. Theories don't matter. What matters is what works in nature. We may not live to see the collapse but it is coming. The easy resources of the world are being exhausted. There are no replacements that are not more expensive to save us. Technology will not save us because we are constrained by the laws of physics and limited resources on this single planet. Primate humans will not leave the earth planet because no habitable other world lies within traversing distance. The only way for the species to survive is to downsize and return to it's ancestral habits and find a religion that is life supporting and hope a true space faring species does not find our world and harvest it for it's meat before we can become quieter and less noticable to the hunters. Even then there is hope if we are the product of alien bioengineering in primates that we will be saved by our shepherd species. It is also more probable that we are alone in the universe or the local group. Time will tell. However with agglomeration of billions of tweeting, soft, delusional, meat bearing creatures I fear our world is ripe for harvest by a race of space faring carnivores if it is within traversable space from wherever they may be coming. Maybe they have wormhole technology. We should be humbler, keep the secrets of time secret and love our families and downsize and be smaller and less noticable like our early mammal forebears.
The meek shall inherit the earth and who knows what shall emerge from the bottomless pit.
We know less than we believe. We should act more than strive to know.
Live a humble, simple life, loving your family and particular social band in accordance with the Georgia Guidance whose monument was unfortunately blown up in accordance with the delusional zeitgeist that humans cause human problems and humans can solve human problems. Humans are a product of nature and subject to nature. Nothing more, nothing less. Even if there was an engineering project to create a more intelligent ape, it's still an ape. Don't forget. Your destiny, Adam, is not in the stars but on the planet Earth.
> Sincerely, Grug \nSent from my RockPhone™ 5
Human lives doesn't matter unless they're in the US. Got it.
20k federal workers take "buyout" so far, official says - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42950790 - Feb 2025 (456 comments)
The FAA’s Hiring Scandal - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42944203 - Feb 2025 (537 comments)
What's happening inside the NIH and NSF - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42940257 - Feb 2025 (1422 comments)
GitHub reveals how software engineers are purging federal databases - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42936940 - Feb 2025 (308 comments)
Payments crisis of 2025: Not “read only” access anymore - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42933219 - Feb 2025 (634 comments)
The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42910910 - Feb 2025 (2901 comments)
CDC: Unpublished manuscripts mentioning certain topics must be pulled or revised - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42905937 - Feb 2025 (714 comments)
NSF starts vetting all grants to comply with executive orders - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42886661 - Jan 2025 (485 comments)
That's not a comprehensive list—there are quite a few others—but whether it's the right amount of not is something each HN user will have a different opinion about.
Likely: the owners of ycombinator and hackernews have very specific views and connections to people in the tech industry with very specific views. Tech Bros are taking over, and ycombinator is squarely in the tech-bro camp -- that's the point of the site!