Yes, it's kinda same, ATC communications have a specific rhythm and cadence, the speech is professional, neutral, and emotionally detached, combination with ambient music creates an audio cocoon that helps easily get into flow state and increase your productivity
Yeah, I used to use LoFi ATC, but it stopped working. Built something to scratch the itch: https://tonygaeta.com/labs/atc-lofi. OP’s design is solid—great site with good options.
Don't get me wrong, but I think this is a perfectly good place for a feedback, since you made the Show HN post. There is no need to redirect users to Google Forms.
It was actually more a technical question, the site uses LiveATC streams, there doesn't seem to be any specific reason to limit which stream the user chooses, I was just wondering if there was any particular reason for it. Maybe you could include an 'advanced' section where users can enter their own stream code (e.g. not 'ksfo_twr' but 'lhbp_app2' or whatever?
Hopefully OP is going to give them some (a lot of?) money, considering there's a promiment link to Product Hunt that says "Launching soon", and nothing on today's Internet is made just for fun anymore, but for $$$$.
Oh yeah the ATC radio is also directly from liveatc.net servers, which says on their site: "NOTICE: Third-party use of LiveATC live audio streams is prohibited." and this site probably violates many points on https://www.liveatc.net/legal/ (unless, OP did get their permission to do this...).
The music selection is indeed quite good, but I would try to make sure that there are no vocals in the music — those overlap with ATC too unpleasantly for me.
Thank you so much for the support! Really appreciate it, this is my first launch ever and I really glad to see that people love it and even support it! <3
He's abusing LiveATC.net and somafm.com 's bandwidth, as well as royalty payments made by somafm.com (See comments on this page from rustyhodge, the operator of somafm.com), giving him "coffee money" is encouraging the thievery.
I can't and wouldn't argue with what you say here, but:
a) I donated twice as much to somafm
b) His connecting me with somafm was worth the donation to him. Besides, as an aspiring sw artist, I like to sow good karma seeds.
That said, I would recommend he pay out his sources both fairly and according to their terms. Their terms are their choice, and we should respect them.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. We live and we learn, when we're at our best.
Yeah that one made my laptop absolutely chug. I want to listen to the page while reading a writeup of why such a simple graphical effect is so inefficiently rendered.
When I turned on the music and chatter, the first audio that played was of a chimpanzee wildly shrieking for about 2 seconds. The song which played after was “Sonargaon” by Daniel Masson, which as far as I can tell does not include that audio. Maybe someone at the KSFO Tower was having a bad day. Very funny.
UPD: You could disable cloud animation, button is added to the top panel, thank you for feedback everyone, hope you're enjoying it! Please share any other suggestions or feedback if you could.
This is very good indeed! Anyways I've been working with stuff like "Apollo 12 – Lunar Lift-Off/Rendezvous/Docking/LM Jettison (Full Mission 20)
" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfAgzy-TW1g as background :)
havent all the PDs across the country switched to encrypted radio coms? and how is this supposed to be relaxing when you could hear a cop screaming for backup after being shot in his pelvis?
Doesn't have to be getting shot, but I'd say that the probability of non-routine calls that could disrupt your focus is much greater for police radio then for ATC, so it's good that OP chose ATC instead...
You got it backwards, cops rarely ever get shot, its the cops doing the shooting of others. The vast majority of cop injuries are self-inflicted from trying to play out their action movie fantasies driving their cars recklessly and getting into accidents, with a few "They broke my hand with their face/skull" thrown in. And even then their injury rate is still significantly below regular blue collar workers.
In SF, the initial dispatch is still in the clear. But a lot of EMS/Fire traffic is unencrypted, as is certain "event" radio traffic. The SF Police Commission doesn't want SF to have a totally encrypted radio system for accountability reasons.
Wow. I didn't know about this (or might have, as I an obsession with trying to hunt for interesting online tools/services/things, but had never tried). Thank you for mentioning it here! This is awesome. I am loving 'Suburbs of Goa' station. Will explore more.
oh wow, nice to see that Digitally Imported is still in business. I used to listen to them like 20 years ago when it was still possible to stream DI through WinAMP :)
I started listening to them in the late 90s or early 2000s. These days I've been a subscriber for years. I even one time did their fun little puzzle they had in their view source that was a recruiting tool. (I did let them know I did it, but wasn't on the market lol)
I used to listen to Digitally Imported's Eurodance station a lot 10-15 years ago, but eventually it felt like I just kept hearing the same songs, that they never added any new music to it.
Yea, they should at least get credit, if not an ongoing donation. AFAIK SomaFM runs entirely on user donations, so rebranding their service without even mentioning them seems kind of crass.
Thank you for contributing to the enshittication of the web. We keep our streams open so our listeners can easily and freely access us, unlike most other internet radio services. But if things like this get any traction, we're going to have to start restricting them.
We are paying for your little hobby. SomaFM pays close to $100k a year now on music royalties. We pay based on a per-listener, per-song basis. Sites like yours cost us money even when someone only checks it out for a few seconds.
SomaFM is a tiny organization, we're not some VC-funded startup.
Sure, I understand, it’s just proof of concept and I selected your platform as one of the best ones, I will pause the stream for now, is there anyway we could chat, if you’re willing to?
You are costing us money. We have to pay royalties to the artist for each person who hears even part of a track. We do not have ads in the streams.
Why are you being so stubborn about honoring our request? Why not play creative commons music, embed SoundCloud tracks, or make your own music mix and pay the royalties on that.
Don't steal our content (that we have to pay royalties for each listener on) for your "proof of concept".
My bad, what I thought will be little experiment turned out to something bigger, I really appreciate and respect your work, I took my lessons out of this, stream changed to SoundCloud, in the future I consider to use AI generated chill music stream if there will be any good one soon.
Thank you and I apologize one more time, SomaFM is a legendary and something that I love personally, all the best, Olzhas Y.
P.S. Please tell if there is any other questions left.
ATC works for me but not music, I get the following error in the console:
Playback error: DOMException: The media resource indicated by the src attribute or assigned media provider object was not suitable
Approach/Departure is SCT (SoCal Tracon), ZLA is Los Angeles Center (en route/ARTCC). While there'll be more traffic, it's still spread out across a bunch of sectors that are each typically their own feed.
Edit: Added Airport and chill music station dropdowns.
I thought it wasn't really cool to embed these streams from volunteer-run (both), donation-supported (SomaFM) and grift it with BuyMeACoffee/Product Hunt. And when SomaFM doesn't like it and reasonably blocks it through CORS, to proxy around it. And not respond to anyone bringing it up here.
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[ 2.9 ms ] story [ 144 ms ] threadOh yeah the ATC radio is also directly from liveatc.net servers, which says on their site: "NOTICE: Third-party use of LiveATC live audio streams is prohibited." and this site probably violates many points on https://www.liveatc.net/legal/ (unless, OP did get their permission to do this...).
Soma rightfully seem to have just enabled CORS though after seeing this traffic spike.
Edit: And now OP just started proxying around it, hilariously adversarial when embedding a donation-based service.
(FYI: Working on Ubuntu with standard Firefox, no problems at all.)
Thanks for this, whoever you are :-)
Will try to slide you some cash, when possible. You have made my day brighter, friend. Love and peace to you.
Compassion will fix this world, my dear friend, spread the word!
Thank you dear friend, will spread the word!
a) I donated twice as much to somafm
b) His connecting me with somafm was worth the donation to him. Besides, as an aspiring sw artist, I like to sow good karma seeds.
That said, I would recommend he pay out his sources both fairly and according to their terms. Their terms are their choice, and we should respect them.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. We live and we learn, when we're at our best.
I haven't heard a track I didn't like yet. Nice service. I hope they pay the artists.
Back before talk radio was everywhere, old ladies would put on a scanner in the kitchen and leave it on for days, weeks, years just for company.
Sometimes they'd put on the local easy listening station at the same time to fill in the gaps between scanner traffic.
I was a journalist, and scanner grannies regularly called the assignment desk to make sure we hadn't missed something they heard.
SomaFM https://somafm.com/groovesalad/
plus
LiveATC https://www.liveatc.net
Judging by what happened to LofiATC though, it seems LiveATC was not fond of this kind of things.
They even have a similar station: https://somafm.com/sf1033/
But it’s the SFPD police scanner + chill beats instead of ATC.
https://somafm.com/scanner/
I hope that props will be given to SomaFM for their stream and original idea.
South or Midwest is a different story, of course.
Also their sister sites of Jazz or Rock are your thing, link on their home page somewhere.
Helped me get through University a lot
Nerd show Thursday night (8pst?) on Defcon radio is amazing.
https://somafm.com/player24/station/missioncontrol
We are paying for your little hobby. SomaFM pays close to $100k a year now on music royalties. We pay based on a per-listener, per-song basis. Sites like yours cost us money even when someone only checks it out for a few seconds.
SomaFM is a tiny organization, we're not some VC-funded startup.
What you're doing is exploiting us.
It's not cool.
Also you're still violating LiveATC's TOS.
Why are you being so stubborn about honoring our request? Why not play creative commons music, embed SoundCloud tracks, or make your own music mix and pay the royalties on that.
Don't steal our content (that we have to pay royalties for each listener on) for your "proof of concept".
Thank you and I apologize one more time, SomaFM is a legendary and something that I love personally, all the best, Olzhas Y.
P.S. Please tell if there is any other questions left.
However it is down.
I am aware of liveatc and broadcastify.
Would love some old Apollo capcom with music.
https://somafm.com/player24/station/missioncontrol
https://youarelistening.to/newyork
And yea, you are right about ZLA vs SCT. I think I mostly fly around SCT and don't venture out much into the wider ZLA area. :)
Edit: Added Airport and chill music station dropdowns.
I thought it wasn't really cool to embed these streams from volunteer-run (both), donation-supported (SomaFM) and grift it with BuyMeACoffee/Product Hunt. And when SomaFM doesn't like it and reasonably blocks it through CORS, to proxy around it. And not respond to anyone bringing it up here.
Or, like, go buy a couple thousand chill tracks, an VHF radio, and actually build your own project.