This is where it gets tricky. Aren’t China and Russia allies too? Holy fuck. The new gang is rewriting the rules to foreign policy. So much that my head hurts to try to make any sense of it.
To be fair at this point it seems like US is drifting closer to Russia side than China is. At least if they stop arms shipments and other aid.
China is barely Russia’s ally, AFAIK they haven’t sold them any weapons. Didn’t try forcing Ukraine to surrender and even abstained on the UN resolution that the US-Russia-North Korea axis opposed.
Do you think I was trying to defend China rather than pointing out that if US continues on its current trajectory it will effectively become one of most important Russian allies?
> unlimited
What do you actually mean by that? Maybe you are mixing up China and North Korea?
China is obviously Russia’s main economic ally. Politically they are somewhat ambiguous towards Ukraine and haven’t provided any direct military aid to Russia. How is that “unlimited”?
China is acting in accordance with US interests on this matter:
>Despite the U.S.’ enduring appeal among China’s tech workers, visa hurdles and tough-on-China policies appear to be a rising occurrence, immigration lawyers and industry insiders told Rest of World. The U.S. government introduced the China Initiative in 2018 and Proclamation 10043 in 2020 — programs designed to protect U.S. national security, but which critics say fueled racial profiling and destroyed hundreds of legitimate careers of Chinese scientists in the U.S. Ottawa earlier this year said it would bar federal funds from flowing to researchers and organizations linked to a list of Chinese, Russian, and Iranian institutions.
While President Joe Biden scrapped the China Initiative in 2022, measures targeting China’s technology industry have continued. Biden’s administration has passed multiple export control measures designed to block China from accessing chips used to develop AI technologies, proposed restrictions on U.S. investments in Chinese tech and AI, and threatened bans on Chinese-owned platforms like TikTok.
Such policies provoke a “fear factor” among Chinese STEM workers, discouraging those in the U.S. from settling, and creating a wide perception that they would be unwelcome at American higher education institutions, Yingyi Ma, professor and director of Asian studies at Syracuse University, told Rest of World.
Chinese nationals applying to work and study in North America have been subject to greater scrutiny and drawn-out security screenings, translating into lengthy visa delays and even deportations. Silicon Valley firms including Google and OpenAI are stepping up their own security screenings of potential recruits as U.S. authorities increasingly voice espionage concerns.
Presumaby they are worried about a reprise of what happend to Meng Wanzhou, daughter of the founder of Huawei, who was put under house arrest in Canada, thus severely damaging Canadian diplomatic and commercial relations with China, all for the US who initiated the proceedings to say "never mind" 3 years later.
I'm pretty sure the Canadians are not going to take a bullet for the US again. And the Chinese would not take the risk for their AI researchers, who like those who work at DeepSeek have proven they can be world-class.
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[ 2.8 ms ] story [ 74.2 ms ] threadChina is barely Russia’s ally, AFAIK they haven’t sold them any weapons. Didn’t try forcing Ukraine to surrender and even abstained on the UN resolution that the US-Russia-North Korea axis opposed.
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> unlimited
What do you actually mean by that? Maybe you are mixing up China and North Korea?
China is obviously Russia’s main economic ally. Politically they are somewhat ambiguous towards Ukraine and haven’t provided any direct military aid to Russia. How is that “unlimited”?
>Despite the U.S.’ enduring appeal among China’s tech workers, visa hurdles and tough-on-China policies appear to be a rising occurrence, immigration lawyers and industry insiders told Rest of World. The U.S. government introduced the China Initiative in 2018 and Proclamation 10043 in 2020 — programs designed to protect U.S. national security, but which critics say fueled racial profiling and destroyed hundreds of legitimate careers of Chinese scientists in the U.S. Ottawa earlier this year said it would bar federal funds from flowing to researchers and organizations linked to a list of Chinese, Russian, and Iranian institutions.
While President Joe Biden scrapped the China Initiative in 2022, measures targeting China’s technology industry have continued. Biden’s administration has passed multiple export control measures designed to block China from accessing chips used to develop AI technologies, proposed restrictions on U.S. investments in Chinese tech and AI, and threatened bans on Chinese-owned platforms like TikTok.
Such policies provoke a “fear factor” among Chinese STEM workers, discouraging those in the U.S. from settling, and creating a wide perception that they would be unwelcome at American higher education institutions, Yingyi Ma, professor and director of Asian studies at Syracuse University, told Rest of World.
Chinese nationals applying to work and study in North America have been subject to greater scrutiny and drawn-out security screenings, translating into lengthy visa delays and even deportations. Silicon Valley firms including Google and OpenAI are stepping up their own security screenings of potential recruits as U.S. authorities increasingly voice espionage concerns.
https://restofworld.org/2024/china-us-immigration-policy-ai-...
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I'm pretty sure the Canadians are not going to take a bullet for the US again. And the Chinese would not take the risk for their AI researchers, who like those who work at DeepSeek have proven they can be world-class.
I found it odd she didn't say from whom she was having visa issues with, and I suspected it was on her side. This supports that hunch.