If these are US citizens, that would be an extreme crime. Even criminals in the US have rights, and sending them beyond US jurisdiction is a clear and obvious violation. The kind that even somebody who supports the administration could not tolerate, if they had even a shred of integrity left.
If that happens, it means that any political opponent is at risk of losing every single right. That is an overwhelming constitutional crisis and I cannot see any ending that is not catastrophic.
I would not be surprised. So I think they might be surprised by just how extreme the response is. If their political opponents can be disappeared, they will have nothing to lose.
This to me is hilarious. I live in the rural south-east and find myself surrounded by the people that cheered this administration on. Sampling the opinions around me, they are about as unhappy with this admin as the left.
Yet when I go on the internet, I see these right-wing Trump supporters making arguments in support of stuff like this with the most hollow and rabid nature.
Have any of you considered that the US Gov just does whatever it wants and manufactures at least a large percentage of the consent we see in digital media?
I think they're unhappy Trump isn't exclusively punishing their political enemies. The broad attack on government programs that help everybody is not what they wanted, they know it's going to hurt themselves.
Electing a mad man or dictator is not equivalent to 3/4 of the states ratifying an amendment to the Constitution. The Yarvin, Thiel, Musk view of using autogolpe to place a CEO-dictatorship in place of Constitutional order is in progress. But the People haven't consented to that. Proposing that they have does enormously heavy lifting for this patrimonial diarchy movement.
It is my belief that when all is said and done, they'll be happy enough that the damage mostly fell on their opponents. That seems to be their top priority; they believe that they'll recover once the opposition is snuffed out.
But we'll see. Assuming there is an election next year, they'll have a chance to signal their disapproval. In many cases it will suffice for them to simply stay home.
My prediction is that they will vote to affirm this self coup. I would very much like to be proven wrong.
I love how you idiots skipped right over the most obvious thing that would make Trump voters unhappy: bombing Yemen. Probably because that's too close to the warped goals of those who control this board. Bunch of crooked propagandists.
He seems to have forgotten that El Salvador is for those who are not US citizens.
He either doesn't understand why that matters, or he doesn't care. He just wants to punish people that he wants punished, and it doesn't matter how. Rules? Why should they apply to him?
His actions, his arrogance, and his disregard for the rule of law disgust me multiple times a day.
And he seems to think Tesla dealerships deserve more protection than the Congress building does.
But at least this time he said "if convicted". That's a start...
And indeed, why should they apply to him. He was elected democratically. Any rules in place will also be repealed. If he's doing it in the wrong order, it's just a technicality.
That's the rule of law in a democracy. We were warned since Plato that it meant mob rule. The demos voted for bread and circuses, and that's what we're getting. Well, circuses first. Maybe bread later.
Why should they apply? Because we are not a pure democracy. We are about the rule of law. An awful lot of what's going on seems to be about whether we have the rule of law or the rule of Trump. Do we have a president, or a king?
I want rule of law. I want the president constrained by the constitution, not able to do everything that comes into his head.
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[ 4.8 ms ] story [ 43.0 ms ] threadIf that happens, it means that any political opponent is at risk of losing every single right. That is an overwhelming constitutional crisis and I cannot see any ending that is not catastrophic.
Yet when I go on the internet, I see these right-wing Trump supporters making arguments in support of stuff like this with the most hollow and rabid nature.
Have any of you considered that the US Gov just does whatever it wants and manufactures at least a large percentage of the consent we see in digital media?
And I'd be willing to bet that if the election were re-run today they'd make the same choice.
Electing a mad man or dictator is not equivalent to 3/4 of the states ratifying an amendment to the Constitution. The Yarvin, Thiel, Musk view of using autogolpe to place a CEO-dictatorship in place of Constitutional order is in progress. But the People haven't consented to that. Proposing that they have does enormously heavy lifting for this patrimonial diarchy movement.
But we'll see. Assuming there is an election next year, they'll have a chance to signal their disapproval. In many cases it will suffice for them to simply stay home.
My prediction is that they will vote to affirm this self coup. I would very much like to be proven wrong.
He either doesn't understand why that matters, or he doesn't care. He just wants to punish people that he wants punished, and it doesn't matter how. Rules? Why should they apply to him?
His actions, his arrogance, and his disregard for the rule of law disgust me multiple times a day.
And he seems to think Tesla dealerships deserve more protection than the Congress building does.
But at least this time he said "if convicted". That's a start...
That's the rule of law in a democracy. We were warned since Plato that it meant mob rule. The demos voted for bread and circuses, and that's what we're getting. Well, circuses first. Maybe bread later.
I want rule of law. I want the president constrained by the constitution, not able to do everything that comes into his head.