I'm sure the rename had good reason but I can't imagine going from a name like "HMS Endeavour", what a great name, to "Lord Sandwich" ... in modern times that sounds like some lighthearted forum username.
The HMS Lord Sandwich's namesake is almost certainly former 1st Lord of the Admiralty John Montagu, the 4th Earl of Sandwich && person that the dish is actually named after.
He was also head of the British navy ("First Lord of the Admiralty") at the time and a great supporter of Cook's, so there's even a closer connection specific to the Endeavor. Cook named Hawaii the "Sandwich Islands" after him.
The Earl of Sandwich was not a naval officer; the First Lord of the Admiralty was the chair of the Board of Admiralty, which was a committee formed to undertake the duties of the office of Lord High Admiral. The Board of Admiralty had responsibility for the administration of the Royal Navy. Operational command was (and remains) the responsibility of the Sea Lords; the most senior serving officer of the Royal Navy is the First Sea Lord.
3. exciting terror, awe, or great fear; dreadful; awful.
4. formidably great.
I think it's a perfectly suitable name for a warship. The notion of "terrible" describing the inferior quality of something is a much more recent meaning, I believe.
Which is doubly funny because it's a tourist/retirement town with a larger than it needs police department (whole region is this way, not just this town) so they inevitably fill their time with with activities befitting the name.
Are you saying the excessive number of police results in absurd enforcement practices, or are you saying their officers are large because they spend all day confiscating sandwiches?
Enforcing a "no food or drink" posting in a public place that exists solely to drive business to vendors (who've doubtlessly paid an unnecessary chunk of flesh to the government for access to the captive market) is exactly the kind of thing I can see them doing.
Same reason we get modern stupid names like "Crypto.com Arena". Those who pay the money and/or give the orders get to choose the name, and they like putting their own names on things.
The Endeavor is not to be confused with Shackleton's ship the Endurance (as I had in my mind), which went down after getting mangled by pack ice and never got the chance to be officially renamed the "Lord Hamburger".
Only when you forget that "sandwich" was a name of a place first (and the person with a title associated with it ". Putting stuff between bread is named after a person and may well have been poking fun at him originally.
A once-decent newspaper whose broadsheet I used to read in the late 90s. Long gone the way of the Daily Mail et. al., alas. I see the Indie's URL now and don't even bother.
That article says that the Rhode Island Marine Archaeology Project didn’t agree with the identification. This new article is about a published article on the discovery. The articles are totally different.
Has anyone found a clear indication of the wreck's location?
There's been a lot of interesting ship activity in Narraganset Bay lately, at least as seen when crossing the Jamestown / Newport bridges. I'm curious if any of it's related to that wreck.
The map shows a location of a line of deliberately scuttled ships to block the harbor between Rose Island and Battery Park. Most of the ships were salvaged, the Endeavour was not.
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https://www.dictionary.com/browse/terrible
3. exciting terror, awe, or great fear; dreadful; awful.
4. formidably great.
I think it's a perfectly suitable name for a warship. The notion of "terrible" describing the inferior quality of something is a much more recent meaning, I believe.
Especially considering the British colloquial usage of "fanny" I think someone was in a particularly good mood that day.
Enforcing a "no food or drink" posting in a public place that exists solely to drive business to vendors (who've doubtlessly paid an unnecessary chunk of flesh to the government for access to the captive market) is exactly the kind of thing I can see them doing.
http://cuberule.com has solved this question definitively.
The Endeavor is not to be confused with Shackleton's ship the Endurance (as I had in my mind), which went down after getting mangled by pack ice and never got the chance to be officially renamed the "Lord Hamburger".
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/feb/03/capta...
“Premature” and “breach of contract” are very different things.
I wonder what additional work was done so as to find that announcement now, years later, is okay.
There's been a lot of interesting ship activity in Narraganset Bay lately, at least as seen when crossing the Jamestown / Newport bridges. I'm curious if any of it's related to that wreck.
Most of the interesting ship activity I've been seeing lately is further west and north.
And URI GSO's research vessel has been closer to its main dock, which shouldn't have surprised me one little bit.
I worked this wreck with RIMAP and had to sign an NDA before boating out, but that was back in 2020
That's a pretty sucky end for a vessel that made so much history.