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Kagi founder here. This is prematurely shared and not ready for prime time yet. Official launch with mobile apps will happen soon. Thanks!
Please, please reconsider this product and take it offline for now. The vast majority of "information" in these stories is complete garbage. You are making up numbers, facts, quotes, and entire narratives. I made a list of examples (from just one single story) in another comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44520841.

I don't think a service like this is impossible, but it cannot be done with LLMs. They are the worst possible tool for news, all they can do is generate text that looks like legitimate news but is inevitably wrong. Again, please don't do this. Think about the massive amount of lies you will spread if this gains a large user base. I've been a subscriber for years, but I will cancel my subscription in a few days if you don't do anything about this. I can't let you use my money to create this societal catastrophe.

Edit: I see there is a GitHub issue raising the same problems, hopefully you can respond there with what you're doing about this: https://github.com/kagisearch/kite-public/issues/97

Hi

First, it's a great idea! The "introductory" speech is interesting then... the result is really disappointing :-(

You see: I'm French (and European). So, I don't necessarily consider that "Trump" is the center of the "World" (actually quite the opposite). However, on the "World" tab, 50% of the news are about "Trump". I would have thought that the aim of this kind of newsfeed is to challenge Trump tactic's of "newsroom saturation". In particular in that tab (Trump can be the alpha & omega for the USA tab)

What kind of editorial policies will you have about how you frame stories and what kind of words you will use?

I'm a happy subscriber to Tangle News, and its founder has spent a lot of time about about how he wants to bridge ideological divides in a way that echoes "We strive for diversity and transparency of resources and welcome your contributions to widen perspectives." He talks about looking for language to avoid those divides: where one side might speak of illegal aliens and other side might speak of undocumented immigrants, Tangle picked the term unauthorized migrants.

He did a little TED talk about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=543mYKKh1EE

Anyways, just curious how you'll approach this issue. I'm interested in your project and wish you all the best!

> World doesn't live in echo chambers. The reality emerges from the collision of different viewpoints and perspectives - that's how we separate signal from noise

To be honest, when people start talking about "echo chambers" it's usually because they are upset that I won't listen to bigoted alt-right hate.

For me this term has gained a really negative connotation. I understand the problem but hearing the same tired ranty talking points repeated is not helping my state of mind. If that means I am in an "echo chamber", so be it. Alternative viewpoints, fine, when there is something to build on. But there are limits. When differences in opinion are too extreme debating them is only causing agitation and polarisation, in my experience.

I understand the point but I wouldn't use the term "echo chamber" anymore.

I like this service by the way. I've been thinking of making something myself by using an AI to filter news feeds by the topics I'd be interested in. Edit: Just found out it is very configurable, that's great! My original point was that the default is very US centric in its news choice but this can be simply modified.

Don't worry, the first link I clicked, by chance, was this super well-balanced article: https://www.dailysignal.com/2025/07/09/big-beautiful-test-of...

/s

> As always, Democrats tried to demonize spending reductions as attacks on the poor, though any voter who looks at what the bill actually says will find commonsense reforms

> the BBB helps families tremendously

> Democrats have spent a decade praying Trump would shatter the Republican coalition, but instead he’s strengthened it, clarifying the party’s aims and defying the fringes.

> He listens to libertarians and family-policy engineers, but he wouldn’t allow narrow concerns to veto a bill that protects the border and lowers taxes for essentially everyone.

Glad I got a perfectly well-balanced look at the pros and cons of this piece of legislation.

> when people start talking about "echo chambers" it's usually because they are upset that I won't listen

Probably not "upset", per se. Most likely frustrated that you bother weighing in on topics for which you maintain a deliberately narrow view.

I said this before in another comment a while ago, but we have echo chambers in real life: they're called friends.

I won't be friends with assholes, but, for some reason, there's this sort of expectation to humor crazy people. I'd rather just call you crazy and move on. Bonus points if we don't interact in the first place.

I love how there are no ads on the page and it is all for free, no paywalls, private, to the point, no sponsors, just the news.

Can you add RSS feeds as well?

More news websites need to take a leaf out of Kagi.

Edit: The RSS feed is here:

https://kite.kagi.com/world.xml

Intrigued by the World Tension Index (you can enable it in the settings under the Experimental tab) which currently reads Mild/24°:

> The world is simmering gently, marked by active regional conflicts, deadly protests, and a severe flood, yet tempered by budding Gaza ceasefire talks and cooperative diplomatic meetings.

> While trade disputes and political probes contribute to tension, no large-scale escalations or catastrophic events push the situation beyond the usual range of global unrest.

I wonder how this is calculated and what would push the meter from normal over elevated to serious/extreme.

I love it. This is the only site I want to read the news on.

Feature request:

Mark the headline as read once I tap or click on it. When I collapse a headline, would it be possible to change the text colour to grey? I don't like having to do manual tasks when I’m just trying to read the news.

Amazing tool, thanks!

I made something quite similar, and was just using <details> tag instead with grey coloring on open (that was persisted to localstorage).
Have a look at https://www.boringreport.org/app

I saw it here on HN a couple of years ago and found it pretty good. I hate the current state of news. Titles are usually pure clickbait and half of the article's content is filling text for ad prints.

I really love this.

I also just started reading Kagi's changelog. I'm glad I subscribe, these folks rock!

>an endless stream of clickbait that destroys our ability to think deeply and clearly.

Disagreed. News never changed. It was always exactly like this. The Pulitzer award was created because journalists lied and caused an assassination and the spanish war.

The thing that changed is social media is letting everyone fact check the journalists and we're catching them in their lies. We are ushering in a new era of professionalism and truth in journalism and it's not going well at all.

Here in Canada we have a funny one happening right now. Another whistleblower from the CBC was forced to involuntarily resign. Now the CBC is saying they refuse his resignation that he's a slave and must continue working for them. So his lawyer has to bring a human rights lawsuit.

>World doesn't live in echo chambers. The reality emerges from the collision of different viewpoints and perspectives - that's how we separate signal from noise.

Or at least it shouldnt be this way.

>This multi-source approach helps reveal the full picture beyond any single viewpoint.

Grabbed the RSS, thanks!

> News never changed. It was always exactly like this.

That's not true. Bias and agenda have always existed, but there was a time when news sources clearly distinguished facts from opinions. In the US the shift arguably happened in 1987 when the fairness doctrine was abolished, and for-profit media companies were given freedom to publish anything they wanted. The 24/7 news cycle was established, and news sources operated under incentives to keep consumers' attention above everything else, including journalistic integrity.

> The thing that changed is social media is letting everyone fact check the journalists and we're catching them in their lies. We are ushering in a new era of professionalism and truth in journalism and it's not going well at all.

That's a bold take, if I ever saw one. You're actually saying that social media is a good thing for journalism?

If anything, social media exacerbated the free-for-all problem of reporting. Suddenly, everyone was a news reporter, with zero moral or integrity obligations. On the contrary: the larger the audience of a social media influencer, the more incentivized they are to infuse their content with bias and agenda. Companies, advertisers, and governments love that influencers can be easily bought. This is far from a "new era of professionalism and truth in journalism". What a skewed perspective you have.

And now with AI tools, the world is even more flooded with (m|d)isinformation than ever before.

There's nothing inherently flawed about traditional news media. It just needs to be strongly regulated to report facts rather than opinions[1]. This regulation is literally impossible on social media. Journalism is not something anyone with a social media account can or should do. I'm not saying that journalism can't exist on social media—it certainly can. But on its own it's not a place where journalism can thrive.

I would go a step further and make journalism a licensed profession, with its own variant of the Hippocratic Oath. Making the line between fact and fiction as clear as possible is essential to living in reality. Otherwise, words can be weaponized and people can be manipulated into thinking and acting in ways that are beneficial to those in power.

[1] To counter the argument "who gets to be the arbitrer of truth?", it's quite easy to determine when a news story is opinionated: it's loaded with adjectives and language that is crafted to elicit an emotional response in the consumer. Journalism, on the other hand, reports events that happened. It succinctly answers who, what, when, where. It doesn't describe why, or tries to put a spin on the facts. Those events can be easily fact checked. In fact, if everyone was doing journalism, every news story would be exactly the same. The differences are the bulk of the bias and agenda.

UX is nice enough but suffers from same curation (center-right leaning, tech industry-directed) that makes anything like this fundamentally pointless in the long term. Designed to keep readers within the acceptable window of mainstream media that manufactures consent for war, genocide, income inequality, and other suffering at home and abroad. For example: this site taught me that there is only one (unnamed) sticking point on the Gaza ceasefire agreement! Gee, I bet it’s really going to happen this time. Also to offer an Israel section at all, let alone without a corresponding Palestine section, is dubious.
I clicked on a story and at the bottom, it lists "sources" (19 in this case). Following one of these sources (a lesser-known site), there is an article, and at the end it says "REUTERS". So, I guess its source was another source.

Maybe a site like this should try to root-out the "root source" of information - official press releases or press conferences, eye-witness accounts.

I think some editorializing is worthwhile to place things in context and to decide what information to put together into a readable article, but things could be more explicit and should always link to the source material.

Offering a non-editorialized solution for news in 2025 is the opposite of what I thought Kagi stood for. They make a "small web" feature and the best fediverse search index, both to highlight human created content, but then make an AI news aggregator? Are we supposed to form communities and read stuff written by people or are we not?
> Maybe a site like this should try to root-out the "root source" of information - official press releases or press conferences, eye-witness accounts.

I'd personally pay for that. It feels like 90% of the "news" I see these days is just some site telephoning what a different reporter said. I regularly see "study finds x" articles that completely bury the original academic source. Often, "politician said x" articles that spend a lot of time going over everyone's reactions to whatever the politician said without letting me have the full video or press release where he actually said it.

This would also fix an issue I'm seeing on Kite where some stories seem to be the same thing from different angles (one article about the Texas floods is directly above an article about how the Texas floods are "testing FEMA", and there are two separate articles for the recent Trump-Netanyahu deal, one in World and one in USA. X's CEO resigning is three different articles in different feeds. The Business tab has two different articles about Trump tariffs that could really be one article).

This looks great!
>The reality emerges from the collision of different viewpoints and perspectives - that's how we separate signal from noise.

No, representations, not reality is what is obtained from this process. Reality is the encompassing whole where these processes happen and whose absolute actual relevant interpretation is beyond what the most sophisticated educated intelligent human will either be able to grab.

I agree this is being very picky about words, and generally speaking, sure shame on me to bring to much focus on such a triviality. But in this specific case of a public announcement of how a company is going to greatly improve news, I feel like it's very relevant that they consider their words with caution.

All that said, good chance to them in the endeavor, that's a nice goal.

That's great. As a long time kagi subscription (with free t-shirt because I forgot to order) I think this needs some polishing

Here are my suggestions

1- Add ability to have different languages. The feed should allow having one language or more and move between them or mix them

2- It is better if feeds with different languages keeps their our json file for contributing to be easier but build curated one automatically for them

3- This currently does not support RTL languages (or content languages in any of them)

4- It is good if the user can ban certain keywords because of the news fatigue about them. I might want the tech category but don't want to hear about LLM news

5- While the diversity of feeds is good in general. Sometimes you would want to block a certain website feed. Kite should support this in some sense.

I understand that this might be beyond the envisioned view if it as generic news app but I think it should be more personal.

The announcement talks a big talk of trying to avoid echo-chambers, but the sources it quotes seem to be exclusively on the center-right (i.e. liberal) to far-right spectrum.

Not a single left wing source as far as I can see. Everything contained within the pro-capitalist echochamber.

No Jacobin, No Novara Media, No WSWS.

Just another way of rearranging the same pro-market propaganda.

As a paying Kagi subscriber, it's deeply disappointing to see this.

> No Jacobin, No Novara Media, No WSWS.

Thanks for the idea.

"World doesn't live in echo chambers.", yet 1/2 of the articles are about Trump.

I appreciate this is likely coincidence, but my my news sources are far more varied.

I can't find where it specifies how the news is "distilled". I assume it's an LLM summarization, given Kagi is in the AI business in other ways, but it would be nice if they could clearly state that. Knowing who or what I'm listening to is a fundamental part of being able to trust it or not.
If this is not meant to be an echo chamber, why is "Bay" one of the default categories? Most people don't live in the SF Bay Area. Most people who don't, don't even know what "Bay" would mean. I only know because I spend enough time in tech circles to 'get it'.
> Kite reads public RSS feeds of thousands of (community-curated) world-wide news sources and distills them into one perfect daily briefing

So AI-summarized version of /r/worldnews?

I know people love Kagi, but I really don't know how it is better than other news sources except the UI.

I like this a lot. A suggestion, I think it would be good to have a 'latest update' date on the articles, indicating the latest update of any source used. I understand this could be difficult but it would be nice.
Damn I was hoping Kite would be done with Crystal as well. I was actually working on a similar hobby project that is 80%+ similar even the Today In History! But the AI summary and execution is just so much better.

Kite actually got me to look at Kagi again. Joined the Trail, and downloaded Orion. Turns out Webkit Browser can actually be good with Multi Tab usage. It is just Desktop Safari implementations sucks.

Will try to run it for a few months and see how it goes. I really hope Kagi would succeed.

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This currently has an extremely serious hallucination (aka lying) problem, and I am begging people to not use AI-written "news" services. AI aggregation of links to real stories is maybe ok, but you cannot trust anything that claims to be "summarizing" sources while actually just making things up.

The first item I clicked on as a test was "Texas floods raise alarms over weather service cuts" in the Science section. Here are all the issues I found in about 2 minutes, again on the first and only item I've looked at:

- The first image is from the New York Times, but it links to an AP article that doesn't contain the image.

- "The Guadalupe surged more than 30 feet in five hours, overwhelming campsites and low-lying neighborhoods." These figures are wrong, all sources I can find say 30 feet at most, over a time period of much less than 5 hours.

- "A Trump-backed spending bill passed the House with a 22 % cut to NWS operations and satellite procurement." No idea what bill this is talking about or where this number came from, despite some effort to find out. Some sources say the local NWS had lost 22% of its staff, maybe the LLM saw this number somewhere and threw it in here for fun.

- "Kerr County’s applications for federal hazard-mitigation grants in 2017 and 2018 were rejected, leaving it without sirens or modern river gauges." This is very misleading wording, the grant applications were denied by Texas, not by the federal government.

- "“We know the river rises, but we can’t warn people with equipment we don’t have.” - Judge Rob Kelly, Kerr County" This is a hallucinated quote attributed to a real person. He never said the "we can’t warn people with equipment we don’t have" part, nor did anyone else. This is an incredibly serious issue and it is deeply irresponsible to release a product that does this.

- The second image is a graphic that says Disaster 101. It is from a link inside a Grist article about the floods for another article about general disaster preparedness. However, Kagi links it to a Reddit post about Ted Cruz. Kagi's caption is "Trees partially submerged along the swollen Guadalupe River on July 4, 2025.". This is lightly paraphrased from the caption of a completely different image in the Grist article.

- The Perspectives section cites three real articles, but hallucinates their content including quotes that don't exist in the articles. I won't quote them fully here because this post is already pretty long.

- "At least 110 people are confirmed dead and 161 remain missing; survivors urgently need clean water, temporary shelter and mental-health support as temperatures climb above 100 °F." Are temperatures above 100? I don't think this is true.

- "Doppler radar gap: Hill Country sits at the edge of overlapping radar beams, making river-level gauges crucial for flash-flood warnings." This is completely made up as far as I can tell.

- "Lead-time metric: NWS aims for 15-minute flash-flood warning lead-times; staff fear this could shrink if vacancies and equipment gaps grow." Could not confirm this, and 15 minutes seems like an absurdly short goal. I can't believe this is true.

- "A recent AP-NORC poll found that 76 % of Americans trusted National Weather Service forecasts before the Texas disaster, one of the highest confidence levels for any federal agency." This is a lie, the poll didn't even ask a question about trust in forecasts.

This is just the surface-level issues that are easy to spot, I did not get into more technical claims that would take domain knowledge to fact check, and I did not mention overall "editorial" decisions about what was and was not included in the story, which were also very bad.

I have been a Kagi customer for a long time and I like the search engine, but I will probably cancel my subscription if you don't take this down. I can't have my money funding a...

I made a similar project where all news is ranked by significance on a scale from 0 to 10.

Because the significance is determined by an LLM, it surfaces many stories that are usually missed by major media.

https://www.newsminimalist.com/