This doesn't seem so much a progressive behavior as a result of segregation and broken cultures. And indeed that seems to be the origination of the practice.
>In 2019, Uber rolled out a women rider preference feature for female drivers in Saudi Arabia after women won the right to drive in 2018.
I think the direction we should go in is not to separate genders, but unify them. For example, there shouldn't be separate bathrooms or parking spaces. The more you make the separation, the more divided a society becomes. Just look at many muslim socities like Arabic countries where almost everything is separated.
Now, I am a male, but many females, including my partner, actually advance this point of view. Also look at more equal socities like in Nordic countries, and you'll see that there's much less separation than in countries with more gender inequality.
Of course, we can argue cause and effect and what not, but I still stand by the opinion that separation also has an effect on gender equality, not only the other way round.
You mean the part of civilization that requires every single last person own and operate and have space to store their own 3,000 lb pedestrian mower, especially while intoxicated? No thanks!
The pain of having an attractive wife or female partner. Some guys are so aggressive a-holes that more decent women end up shying away from men in general.
Imagine being hit easily 10-50x a day, every effin' day. Work, street, public transport, online, everywhere. Guys really think inviting pretty ladies 'for a coffee' aint something they heard 100x that week already.
Dated one such lady, the trauma and trust issues were real. Either they get spolied for attention or get traumatized. Everybody loses.
This should work in all directions. Male passengers should be able to request male drivers only. Male drivers can request male passengers to avoid any hassle of female passengers.
Also, lesbians can be just as predatory towards females.
Are drivers required to provide sex assigned at birth? If not, we might see male drivers conveniently identifying as women to circumvent this (presumably to minimize wait times between rides). Although I guess they'd get canceled on a lot.
I think the attack vector is traditionally opportunistic. Horny driver suddenly has a vulnerable woman in his car and they're in a secluded area, boom there's an assault.
Any driver who is so premeditated about his assault plans that he would sign up to Uber pretending to be a woman probably has easier and more direct ways to access victims that are less likely to blow up in his face.
The premise here is not that men would "pretend to be women" (and sooner or later, a trans activist will decide that this charge has been levied at the wrong target) as part of a "premeditated assault plan".
The premise is that men would do it either in order to protest the policy, or in order to retain access to business that they had before.
I talked with a woman uber driver in Ann Arbor. She was telling me that she lives in Toledo but drives up to Ann Arbor/Romulus (DTW airport) because the customers are safer and overall nicer while in Toledo she made it sound like everyone's an asshole.
Discriminating against all men because some men are violent criminals is like discriminating against all black people because some black people are violent criminals.
One type of stereotyping and discrimination is socially acceptable. The other is not.
Classifying and disadvantaging a huge group of people because of the actions of a tiny fraction of that group is unjust.
It is my personal belief that neither type of discrimination should be acceptable.
>The law forbids discrimination when it comes to any aspect of employment, including hiring, firing, pay, job assignments, promotions, layoff, training, fringe benefits, and any other term or condition of employment.
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[ 3.8 ms ] story [ 63.5 ms ] thread>In 2019, Uber rolled out a women rider preference feature for female drivers in Saudi Arabia after women won the right to drive in 2018.
Now, I am a male, but many females, including my partner, actually advance this point of view. Also look at more equal socities like in Nordic countries, and you'll see that there's much less separation than in countries with more gender inequality.
Of course, we can argue cause and effect and what not, but I still stand by the opinion that separation also has an effect on gender equality, not only the other way round.
- What's the prevalence of female drivers on Uber (I'm assuming ridership is close enough to 50/50 to not really matter)?
- What's the sexual assault rate on Uber vs traditional cabs, sedan service, etc? And versus baseline rate in general?
Article says uber had about 20% female drivers in US in 2015.
“A survey from the company in 2015 found that about a fifth of its U.S. drivers were women.”
Uber either:
- lets the market equilibrium naturally settle (meaning women requesting woman drivers "pay a safety premium" - hard PR sell)
- manually suppresses the difference, creating distortions that I can't immediately imagine or articulate.
Same on the driver's side.
https://www.uber.com/us/en/beacon/
Imagine being hit easily 10-50x a day, every effin' day. Work, street, public transport, online, everywhere. Guys really think inviting pretty ladies 'for a coffee' aint something they heard 100x that week already.
Dated one such lady, the trauma and trust issues were real. Either they get spolied for attention or get traumatized. Everybody loses.
That isn't exactly arguing against the point being made.
Discrimination is discrimination.
Also, lesbians can be just as predatory towards females.
Any driver who is so premeditated about his assault plans that he would sign up to Uber pretending to be a woman probably has easier and more direct ways to access victims that are less likely to blow up in his face.
The premise is that men would do it either in order to protest the policy, or in order to retain access to business that they had before.
One type of stereotyping and discrimination is socially acceptable. The other is not.
Classifying and disadvantaging a huge group of people because of the actions of a tiny fraction of that group is unjust.
It is my personal belief that neither type of discrimination should be acceptable.
But I'm curious how many women would now feel safe enough to sign up as drivers given this option.
If it does take off, male drivers won't get as many riders but that's ok since their demand was inflated by lack of choice anyway.
>The law forbids discrimination when it comes to any aspect of employment, including hiring, firing, pay, job assignments, promotions, layoff, training, fringe benefits, and any other term or condition of employment.
https://www.eeoc.gov/sex-based-discrimination