Claude Code weekly rate limits

This is like when the all-you-can-eat buffet tells you you're only allowed to go the buffet line once.

"Most Pro users can expect 40-80 hours of Sonnet 4 within their weekly rate limits."

Official Anthropic post on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1mbo1sb/updating_...

Guess the reason why they recently introduced agents? ;) This is not a great change if you ask me. I will have to figure out how badly this affects and if needed just cancel the subscription and find an alternative.

It was always too good to last.

I assume this is the end of the viability of the fixed price options.

It was always too good to last. I assume this is the end of the viability of the fixed price options.

"... and advanced usage patterns like running Claude 24/7 in the background" this is why we can't have nice things

Seems like their business plan is unsustainable. What's a sustainable cost model?

Say an 8xB200 server costs $500,000, with 3 years depreciation, so $166k/year costs for a server. Say 10 people share that server full time per year, so that's going to need $16k/year/person to break even, so ~$1,388/month subscription to break even at 10x users per server.

If they get it down to 100 users per server (doubt it), then they can break even at $138/month.

And all of this is just server costs...

Seems AI coding agents should be a lot more expensive going forward. I'm personally using 3-4 agents in parallel as well..

Still, it's a great problem for Anthropic to have. "Stop using our products so much or we'll raise prices!"

Some equivocation here between legitimate 'heavy use', which is obviously relative and actually referenced in this document, and 'policy violations', which are used at the rationale/justification for it.

200 bucks a month isn't enough. Fine. Make a plan that is enough so that I will be left alone about time limits and enforced breaks.

NOTHING breaks flow better than "Woops! Times up!"; it's worse than credit quotas -- at least then I can make a conscious decision to spend more money or not towards the project.

This whole 'twiddle your thumbs for 5 hours while the gpus cool off' concept isn't productive for me.

'35 hours' is absolutely nothing when you spawn lots of agents, and the damn thing is built to support that behavior.

They need metered billing for their plans.

All AI companies are hitting the same thing and dealing with the same play - they don't want users to think about cost when they're prompting, so they offer high cost flat fee plans.

The reality is though there will always be a cohort of absolute power users who will push the limits of those flat fee plans to the logical extremes. Startups like Terragon are specifically engineered to help you optimize your plan usage. This causes a cat and mouse game where they have to keep lowering limits as people work around them, which often results in people thinking about price more, not less.

Cursor has adjusted their limits several times, now Anthropic is, others will soon follow as they decide to stop subsidizing the 10% of extreme power users.

Just offer metered plans that let me use the web interface.

im really tired of all those ai players just winging it

can someone please find a conservative, sustainable business model and stick with it for a few months please instead of this mvp moving target bs

Hm. I run Claude Code in several containers, though generally only one is active at a time. I wonder if they’ll see that as account sharing?

I'm not sure how this will play out long term, but I really am not a fan of having to feel like I'm using a limited resource whenever I use an LLM. People like unlimited plans, we are used to them for internet, text messaging, etc. The current pricing models just feel bad.

Guess they ran into the usage limits themselves when they worked on the messaging in Claude Code: "Claude usage limit reached. Your limit will reset at 8pm (UTC)"

Why not use the user's timezone?

These are limits for the $200/mo plan?

I'm well within the 95%. I might lack an imagination here, but... What are you guys doing that you hit or exceed limits so easily, and if you do... Why does it matter? Sometimes I'd like to continue exploring ideas with Claude, but once I hit the limit I make a mental note of the time it'll come back and carry on planning and speccing without it. That's fine. If anything, some time away from the slot machine often helps with ensuring I stay on course.

I saw this one coming. Going to make more and more people switch over to gemini.

I cancelled my subscription

I'll keep openAI and they dont even let me use CLI's with it, but they're at least Honest about their offerings.

Also their app doesnt tell you to go fuck off ever, if you're Pro

Other thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44713837

Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but it seems like Anthropic has quietly 4x'd the real cost of the Pro plan. There are 168 hours in a week, and if I'm able to (safely) bet on 40 hours of use, realistically, I just lost 75% of the value of the plan.

What are the reasonable local alternatives? 128 GB of ram, reasonably-newish-proc, 12 GB of vram? I'm okay waitign for my machine to burn away on LLM experiments I'm running, but I don't want to simply stop my work and wake up at 3 AM to start working again..

Ok I really really have to figure out how to have a local setup of the open-source LLMs. I know i know - the "fixed costs" are high. But I have a strong feeling being able to setup local LLMs (and the rig for it) is the next build-your-own-PC phase. All I want is a coding agent and the grunt power to run it locally. Everything else Il build (generate) with it.

I see so many folks claiming crazy hardware rigs and performance numbers so no idea where to begin. Any good starting points on this?

(Ok budget is TBD - but seeing a you get X for $Y would atleast help make an informed decision).

A bunch of words to just say:

We're going to punish the 5% that are using our service too much.

Vibe pricing. That's all this is. "Pay us $200/mo and get... access". There's no way to get a real usage meter (ccusage doesn't count). I want an Anthropic dashboard showing "you've used x% of your paid quota". Instead we get vibe usage. Vibe pricing. "Hey pay us money and we'll give you some level of access but like you won't know what, but don't worry only 5% of our users will trip the switches" bullshit. Someone else in this thread nailed it:

> sounds like it affects pretty much everyone who got some value out of the tool

Feels that way.

But compared to paying the so-called API pricing (hello ccusage) Claude Code Max is still a steal. I'm expecting to have to run two CC Max plans from August onwards.

$400/mo here we come. To the moon yo.