He says that this is not 10,000 lines of bug-filled crap… but, unless you are explicitly verifying and testing the code, how would you know? And, what kind of solution needs 10,000 lines of code added to it daily? Then again, these could be separate solutions. but, still… this 10,000-lines-of-code-a-day thing seems strange.
"I met your wife, she was happy I did not say a word about AI".
AI is a too and can be useful at times. But amount of hype is unjustified in my opinion. Ergo, I am getting a feeling that there is some kind of elite conspiracy going on.
I've done that, occasionally, though through deterministic means, i.e. code generation tools. If you know what you're getting it's no big deal. If you don't, it probably is, but not in a good way.
If it's actually true and the result reasonable, I expect ~7-8 KLOC out of those 10 to be adequate and necessary tests, and roughly 4 out of those 12 h a day to be waiting for tests to finish. I also expect static analysis tooling, linters, ast-grep and so on get a lot of use.
Every time something like this is said, the author turns out (in this case, obviously is given the yc’s recent investment profile) to be a peddler of AI coding tools.
Even if I wrote 10k lines of code a day I will be out of things to implement in day two. Maybe I am working on wrong codebases, but I never felt like I am behind because of not enough lines got writen. It was always finding and forming correct perspective.
Just for fun I checked the codebase stats for platform I am working on and it is 70k lines of code. We are talking about enterprise saas processing payments in billions per year.
Last week I have been working on remote controlling Borunte welding robots, I wrote 10k lines of code per day, creating all kinds of interfaces, weird ik strategies, camera calibrations, weird joypad controls, cad mouse controls, simulations etc.
None of it was prod ready, I was just experimenting, but tbh I would've made 1/10th of the progress if it wasn't for gemini and claude.
Now I know what to write.
PS: the default ik engine on those robots have a bug that can easily kill you when it gets singular, so if you are working on them, keep your distance :)
I stopped looking at my code about 2 months back. I am launching "Lets Order", a micro SaaS, entirely generated by Claude Code, Gemini CLI, Google Jules, etc. I follow a structured approach, using issues on GitHub, Git branches, etc. - as I have done as an engineer for more than a decade.
Rust (backend) and TypeScript - Admin app (for managers), Menu app (for guests) and marketing site. SQLite database with LiteStream for backups. Basic tests, CI/CD.
All this - solo, in 10 days. Plus I market a lot more than I have ever had time.
I am sure there are parts that will break, but what I am getting out of a Claude Pro $20/month in value is a dream. I am generating a couple other products in parallel too, all sources available.
pg somewhat backs off with the claim in a subsequent tweet "The fact that you can write x number of LOC in 12 hours doesn't imply that you work 12 hour days every day." The first tweet says "lines of code a day".
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AI is a too and can be useful at times. But amount of hype is unjustified in my opinion. Ergo, I am getting a feeling that there is some kind of elite conspiracy going on.
Either way, extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence and from that one visible tweet without an account I remain unconvinced.
https://xcancel.com/paulg/status/1953289830982664236
I've done that, occasionally, though through deterministic means, i.e. code generation tools. If you know what you're getting it's no big deal. If you don't, it probably is, but not in a good way.
If it's actually true and the result reasonable, I expect ~7-8 KLOC out of those 10 to be adequate and necessary tests, and roughly 4 out of those 12 h a day to be waiting for tests to finish. I also expect static analysis tooling, linters, ast-grep and so on get a lot of use.
What could go wrong?
I meet people all the time who say the most incredible things. Sometimes, rarely, these things turn out to be true.
Just for fun I checked the codebase stats for platform I am working on and it is 70k lines of code. We are talking about enterprise saas processing payments in billions per year.
Last week I have been working on remote controlling Borunte welding robots, I wrote 10k lines of code per day, creating all kinds of interfaces, weird ik strategies, camera calibrations, weird joypad controls, cad mouse controls, simulations etc.
None of it was prod ready, I was just experimenting, but tbh I would've made 1/10th of the progress if it wasn't for gemini and claude.
Now I know what to write.
PS: the default ik engine on those robots have a bug that can easily kill you when it gets singular, so if you are working on them, keep your distance :)
> As it turns out I met another startup today that's using AI to do ongoing testing of changing codebases. (He's not using them yet though.)
This is a satire, right?
Rust (backend) and TypeScript - Admin app (for managers), Menu app (for guests) and marketing site. SQLite database with LiteStream for backups. Basic tests, CI/CD.
All this - solo, in 10 days. Plus I market a lot more than I have ever had time.
- Source code and GitHub issues: https://github.com/brainless/letsorder
- Site: https://letsorder.app
I am sure there are parts that will break, but what I am getting out of a Claude Pro $20/month in value is a dream. I am generating a couple other products in parallel too, all sources available.
https://x.com/paulg/status/1953321877746901060