This is surprising as it goes against the what I've heard in the past.
The 10,000 foot summary I had was: Americans are starting to die earlier, but the age expectancy of the wealthiest Americans is longer than of people in most countries.
This article says that even the American top 1% die earlier than people in other countries. However, the lack of numbers makes me question this.
Also, the cited reason is socialized healthcare. In the US, the top 1% has access to healthcare through their employers of being able to pay on their own, so it is surprising that this would be a major factor.
I think this article is lacking the details that would make me take the claims seriously.
a rat race promoted by rich sociopaths, specifically designed to have the underclasses ripping each other apart while they live lavish lives that don’t even amount to longer lives.
That could also describe Socialized healthcare except the money is spread on more people working useless jobs and having more normal life
a lot of you probably don’t want to admit, purely for ideological reasons: socialized healthcare.
A yes of course, there are no rational arguments against communism, it’s not like we have austrian economics, classic liberal philosophy, game theory, public choice, experience from the past and basic common sense.
The conclusion reached by the researchers is the same one you’re probably already thinking—the same one that a lot of you probably don’t want to admit, purely for ideological reasons: socialized healthcare.
F*ing lies.
There is no indication of the researchers explicitly connecting socialised healthcare. They didn't collect data to draw such a conclusion. They collected income+location(+other bits) vs life expectancy, but not healthcare type vs life expectancy.
And in reality, I believe Europeans also walk notably more than US-Americans, which might equally well have an impact. And a whole bunch of other things. There might be studies on it. This is not one of them.
The referenced study is from the New England Journal of Medicine, which is pretty respectable, and is a large study. It says the wealthiest 25% of Americans have a worse mortality than the poorest 25% of Europeans.
They have health insurance managed by government, not for profit industry.
Nothing to do with communism, as some of the hacker bros are venting. That's just propaganda to keep people slaving at shitty jobs for less pay and lousy benefits.
The linked study is weird and seems to not justify the headline.
The basically seem to have taken a group of rich Americans and poor Europeans and looked at what percentage died in a given period but didn't take into account how old they were.
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[ 4.2 ms ] story [ 38.4 ms ] threadThe 10,000 foot summary I had was: Americans are starting to die earlier, but the age expectancy of the wealthiest Americans is longer than of people in most countries.
This article says that even the American top 1% die earlier than people in other countries. However, the lack of numbers makes me question this.
Also, the cited reason is socialized healthcare. In the US, the top 1% has access to healthcare through their employers of being able to pay on their own, so it is surprising that this would be a major factor.
I think this article is lacking the details that would make me take the claims seriously.
At least from the Vice article, not read the cited paper.
F*ing lies.
There is no indication of the researchers explicitly connecting socialised healthcare. They didn't collect data to draw such a conclusion. They collected income+location(+other bits) vs life expectancy, but not healthcare type vs life expectancy.
And in reality, I believe Europeans also walk notably more than US-Americans, which might equally well have an impact. And a whole bunch of other things. There might be studies on it. This is not one of them.
They have health insurance managed by government, not for profit industry.
Nothing to do with communism, as some of the hacker bros are venting. That's just propaganda to keep people slaving at shitty jobs for less pay and lousy benefits.
The basically seem to have taken a group of rich Americans and poor Europeans and looked at what percentage died in a given period but didn't take into account how old they were.
Which is an odd way to study things.