what i want to know is if you need multiple senders and receivers, or you just run it on a esp32 and it can visualize? usually they need a sender and a receiver to make sense of it all?
I'm interested but am also incredibly dubious. Not because it seems impossible but the opposite. On one hand, an open source repo like this making an approach for hackable extension should be praised, but the "Why Built WiFi-3D-Fusion" section[0] gives me very, very bad vibes. Here's some excerpts I especially take issue with:
> "Why? Because there are places where cameras fail, dark rooms, burning buildings, collapsed tunnels, deep underground. And in those places, a system like this could mean the difference between life and death."
> "I refuse to accept 'impossible.'"
WiFi sensing is an established research domain that has long struggled with line of sight requirements, signal reflection, interference, etc. This repo has the guise of research, but it seems to omit the work of the field it resides in. It's one thing to detect motion or approximately track a connected device through space, but "burning buildings, collapsed tunnels, deep underground" are exactly the kind of non-standardized environments where WiFi sensing performs especially poorly.
I hate to judge so quickly based on a readme, but I'm not personally interested in digging deeper or spinning up an environment. Consider this before aligning with my sentiment.
I'm dying to know though, what's the practical resolution like? Can it tell the difference between my cat and a bag I dropped, or is it more like "a blob moved over there"?
On one hand, the potential privacy invasions enabled by this technology (e.g. Xfinity (of course Comcast) a few months ago[1]) are pretty scary.
On the other hand, the technology seems potentially extremely useful. I've had an interest in pose estimation for many years, but doing it with normal cameras seems tricky to do reliably because of the possibility for visual occlusion (both from the body itself and from other objects). I'm curious to see if I can use this for something like tracking my posture while I use my computer so I can avoid back pain later in life.
Ok let's say I'm making a robot spider in my garage half the size of a Tesla and with as much horsepower. I'm putting nvidias new Jetson brain as the chip. If I use enough of these can I replace a lidar package for autonomous control?
The whole README is heavily AI-edited (the final output is all by AI), and the worst thing is that the image diagrams seem to be generated (likely with 4o), see for example
The US military has been using tech like this for years. Some public, some not. The stuff not public is supposedly pretty good (bits and pieces of info have slipped in various publications).
If you’re interested in this stuff, check out Lumineye.
I do actually really want this, to integrate into Home Assistant. I don't want to have to put a bunch of mm-wave detectors around the house to see where people are, I want to use the emitters and receivers I've already got.
The current alternatives aren't that great.
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[ 3.2 ms ] story [ 44.0 ms ] threadThis is what 1998 felt like.
https://aiotgroup.github.io/Person-in-WiFi-3D/
Frankly I'm shocked it's possible to do this with that level of resolution.
> "Why? Because there are places where cameras fail, dark rooms, burning buildings, collapsed tunnels, deep underground. And in those places, a system like this could mean the difference between life and death."
> "I refuse to accept 'impossible.'"
WiFi sensing is an established research domain that has long struggled with line of sight requirements, signal reflection, interference, etc. This repo has the guise of research, but it seems to omit the work of the field it resides in. It's one thing to detect motion or approximately track a connected device through space, but "burning buildings, collapsed tunnels, deep underground" are exactly the kind of non-standardized environments where WiFi sensing performs especially poorly.
I hate to judge so quickly based on a readme, but I'm not personally interested in digging deeper or spinning up an environment. Consider this before aligning with my sentiment.
[0] https://github.com/MaliosDark/wifi-3d-fusion/blob/main/READM...
On the other hand, the technology seems potentially extremely useful. I've had an interest in pose estimation for many years, but doing it with normal cameras seems tricky to do reliably because of the possibility for visual occlusion (both from the body itself and from other objects). I'm curious to see if I can use this for something like tracking my posture while I use my computer so I can avoid back pain later in life.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44426726
We built this system at the UofT WIRLab back in 2018-19 https://youtu.be/lTOUBUhC0Cg
And link to paper https://arxiv.org/pdf/2001.05842
https://github.com/MaliosDark/wifi-3d-fusion/blob/main/docs/...
"Wayelet CSi tensas"
That makes me question the authenticity of the project.
If you’re interested in this stuff, check out Lumineye.