> According to the German Automobile Association, manual opening is only possible from the inside, which complicates rescue attempts for emergency services.
The issue, other than complicated internal release, was the lack of an external way to manually open the doors. (e.g.: driver is unconscious with small kids who haven't read the manual)
As a tech person I've been in enough meetings where some tech nerd was aggressively driving forward a dementedly overcomplicated and perspective lacking solution to know that the last thing these types want is a solved problem.
To them, a wheel is detestable -because it's simple and easy to use, and they've got some idea of a superior complex polyhedron that's of course better and everyone else is dumb for not using it.
It would be good if we could trace whatever technical dog shit killed these poor little kids back to whoever was involved, and... "offer them a non-technical solution to the causal factors".
Elon like to think he innovates when he just changes stuff for no reason that carmakers figured out a century ago. Anyone that has used the turn signals or wipers in a Tesla understands how stupid it is.
Guaranteed every Tesla owner (Model 3/Y at least, I haven't seen the others) has had to explain to new passengers how to properly open the door and to use the button to exit and NOT the obvious handle.
Meanwhile how many times in one's life as a non-Tesla-owner have you had to explain to someone how to open a car door?
They do say they're a tech company and not a car company, eh?
There’s a Neil Postman talk from the late 90s where he voiced his disdain for and resistance against automatic windows while purchasing a new car. He was on to something.
in aircraft design there is something called the "failure mode", and every last possible thing is considered and reviewed from all possible scenarios and accident reviews.
so things like wing bolts are obvious, but the door handles are also approved, and how the carpet is held down, as if it comes loose, and rumpples up under the rudder pedals, you die, and on and on and on.
recently been a spate of helicopter accidents where loose objects (personal kit), have jammed controls, and the problem becomes, do you ban (shift blame) loose objects, or go all in and test and design for unjammable controlls.....which will require a slightly larger cabin with greater clearances, and controlls that are fully covered and therefor a bit heavier and harder to service.....which comes with it's own risks
I drive a VW ID.3, and while it has traditional door handles, there is a feature that drives me crazy: it auto-locks the doors when you start driving. There is no way to turn this off. In case of a crash, the doors won't open from the outside. But they will also not open from the inside in case the electronics related to the central locking is damaged in the crash. I don't understand how this is considered a safety feature.
In every single other car I'd driven there was a way to permanently disable such feature. Not in ID.3.
When I have driven cars with electronic door poppers, I found them to be a downgrade from traditional mechanical door handles. It's even possible to make the latter sit flush, and cars have been doing it since at least the 1960s.
I'm all for trying new things in the hope that there might be a better way, but make sure it's actually better before putting it into a volume product where it has safety implications.
Despite how horrific this is it doesn’t tell us what really happened. Doors can get stuck in any car after an accident. Teslas are very controversial today for obvious reasons so every time there’s some tragic news the brand has to be mentioned. Like recently they found a dismembered body of a woman and of course it was found inside a Tesla. In any case the lack of handles should not be a problem as there’s a latch inside which is easy to access and operate. It’s up to each car user to get familiar with the car to drive it safely.
Why does the title have "Burnend"? As far as I can tell, there's a Burnend distillery that produces Scotch Whisky, but I fail to see the connection with Teslas.
good example of where regulation is useful - there's zero reason for idiots to be making things like this worse, no matter what dumb justification they have. people shouldn't have to bear in mind "is this the one that burns you alive if the door power goes out or they ship a door software bug?" when shopping.
Maybe I’m under-thinking this problem, but they couldn’t just break the window? Nobody wants to get hit with broken glass, but I’ll take some cuts over being burned alive.
These vehicles are a menace. The fact that this can even happen is horrifying ... there is no more painful and horrible way to die then to be burned alive. This was a father and his two children. I cannot believe people are still buying Teslas, especially with this Nazi leader of theirs, and especially in Germany.
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And Tesla plans to change them because they are too hard to use:
https://insideevs.com/news/772636/tesla-door-handle-fix-fran...
"Open the door" is a standalone manual, as a sentence. If that's not the case, no doubt there's some Aspergers tech nerd involved.
I'd like to see stuff like this elevated to conspiracy to murder through tech-shit means.
> According to the German Automobile Association, manual opening is only possible from the inside, which complicates rescue attempts for emergency services.
The issue, other than complicated internal release, was the lack of an external way to manually open the doors. (e.g.: driver is unconscious with small kids who haven't read the manual)
I thought this was a solved problem.
To them, a wheel is detestable -because it's simple and easy to use, and they've got some idea of a superior complex polyhedron that's of course better and everyone else is dumb for not using it.
It would be good if we could trace whatever technical dog shit killed these poor little kids back to whoever was involved, and... "offer them a non-technical solution to the causal factors".
Meanwhile how many times in one's life as a non-Tesla-owner have you had to explain to someone how to open a car door?
They do say they're a tech company and not a car company, eh?
In every single other car I'd driven there was a way to permanently disable such feature. Not in ID.3.
I'm all for trying new things in the hope that there might be a better way, but make sure it's actually better before putting it into a volume product where it has safety implications.
A small nit: It's "burnt", not "burnend"
People have been trapped in burning cars due to impact and deformation since cars exist. Such tragedies are not specific to Teslas.