I have a lot of experience with "LLM voice" as well, and none of that sounds even remotely LLM-written.
The smoking gun for LLM-written text is when the text is a "linked list". It can only ever directly reference the previous thing. That's not the case here. And the latest Hunger Games book isn't yet another amazon-published slopfest. It's been through a couple of rounds of editing, at the very least.
I'm not saying RedditOP is completely off-kilter. There might be something to what he's saying. Maybe Suzanne Collins (the author of the book) has been consuming a lot of LLM-generated content. Or maybe she's just ahead of the curve and writing in a style that's likely to catch fire (no pun intended) [1].
[1]: Yes, I wrote this myself! And the entire reply!
This is truly an abysmal revelation. I can't really put into words how horrified I am that actual real physical books are now getting AI slop enshitifcation.
'Embellishment' seems absolutely standard for a novel, some authors more than others, and it's exactly what you're taught to do clumsily in school.
The actions in the train scene didn't seem so bizarre to me, and even if they did we can still write bizarre events and characters? Similarly the spiderweb skin, where's the line between 'no human would ...' and writing a strange character?
I don't have anything like the OOP's experience with literature or even AI, but I'm not really convinced. It is nevertheless interesting that they believe they've identified it, and to think of the ramifications, aside from whether it's a correct analysis or not.
Have you ever touched spider web? Have you walked in a forrest and got spider web stuck on your face or clothes impossible to get rid of? Y’know how in such a moment you immediately think ”Oh yeah, this is exactly like my ol’ nan’s skin, real silky like”? Why are people gaslighting themselves to think that this kind of cheap garbage has not been produced with LLM’s for years at this point? People just actually getting used to the ”style” and starting to recognise it.
I hope to god those paragraphs were written by a LLM, since otherwise there no excuse in publishing such drivel. But the fact that people (many many people) buy this, read this and go ”yeah granma’s spider skin, that makes sense”, is far more scarier than few ghostwriters losing commissions.
With that in mind, most negative reviews seem to have this in common:
> If you want to read something very similar to The Hunger Games, this is your book. It goes reaping > dress-up > training > rating > games. The characters are different, but the plot is virtually the same.
> It would be considered standard industry practice to hire a ghostwriter for these prequels
The use of ghostwriters is the main problem, I think. AI is just another ghostwriter.
I recently read a book that's 3rd in a trilogy. I loved the first 2 books but didn't like the 3rd at all and indeed stopped reading after about 100 pages. It felt like the 3rd book was just a perfunctory response to the publisher's request for another sequence in the series, a mere money grab. But now, suddenly, I'm starting to wonder whether the 3rd book was even written by the author...
I was aware that non-writers, e.g., politicians, use ghostwriters when they publish a book, but it would have never occurred to me that experienced, accomplished fiction writers would also use ghostwriters.
Yes, and this post may have been written by AI, but it wasn't. Corrected title: One person thinks the latest Hunger Games novel may have been co-authored by AI based on two examples and a "gut feeling".
Whether it's accurate or not (how could anyone really tell?) just another person spending a lot of time in AI systems starting to question everything about their reality. See also some recent anime/comic-cons where vendors have been accused of selling generated artwork. This being unable to unsee the potential for AI-use in many creative things etc driving one missions to unveil the 'truth', conspiracy theory/paranoia. Calling it being AI-pilled. Not saying it isn't unnerving/unfounded wanting to weed out the 'interference', but not a good direction for many.
Can we spare HN some of these off the wall Reddit dives?
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[ 61.8 ms ] story [ 863 ms ] threadThe smoking gun for LLM-written text is when the text is a "linked list". It can only ever directly reference the previous thing. That's not the case here. And the latest Hunger Games book isn't yet another amazon-published slopfest. It's been through a couple of rounds of editing, at the very least.
I'm not saying RedditOP is completely off-kilter. There might be something to what he's saying. Maybe Suzanne Collins (the author of the book) has been consuming a lot of LLM-generated content. Or maybe she's just ahead of the curve and writing in a style that's likely to catch fire (no pun intended) [1].
[1]: Yes, I wrote this myself! And the entire reply!
The actions in the train scene didn't seem so bizarre to me, and even if they did we can still write bizarre events and characters? Similarly the spiderweb skin, where's the line between 'no human would ...' and writing a strange character?
I don't have anything like the OOP's experience with literature or even AI, but I'm not really convinced. It is nevertheless interesting that they believe they've identified it, and to think of the ramifications, aside from whether it's a correct analysis or not.
I hope to god those paragraphs were written by a LLM, since otherwise there no excuse in publishing such drivel. But the fact that people (many many people) buy this, read this and go ”yeah granma’s spider skin, that makes sense”, is far more scarier than few ghostwriters losing commissions.
Or should I say: ”Honestly? Me thinks we cooked.”
> If you want to read something very similar to The Hunger Games, this is your book. It goes reaping > dress-up > training > rating > games. The characters are different, but the plot is virtually the same.
> the book reads like a hunger games #1 rewrite
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/214331246-sunrise-on-the...
Although most fans seem to love it.
> It would be considered standard industry practice to hire a ghostwriter for these prequels
The use of ghostwriters is the main problem, I think. AI is just another ghostwriter.
I recently read a book that's 3rd in a trilogy. I loved the first 2 books but didn't like the 3rd at all and indeed stopped reading after about 100 pages. It felt like the 3rd book was just a perfunctory response to the publisher's request for another sequence in the series, a mere money grab. But now, suddenly, I'm starting to wonder whether the 3rd book was even written by the author...
I was aware that non-writers, e.g., politicians, use ghostwriters when they publish a book, but it would have never occurred to me that experienced, accomplished fiction writers would also use ghostwriters.
Can we spare HN some of these off the wall Reddit dives?