> From President Biden on down, administration officials “created a political atmosphere that sought to influence the actions of platforms based on their concerns regarding misinformation,” Alphabet said, claiming it “has consistently fought against those efforts on First Amendment grounds.”
This actually surprised me because I thought (and maybe still think) that it was Google employees that led the charge on this one.
I'm very pro-vaccines, I don't think the 2020 election was stolen. But I think we have to realize silencing people doesn't work. It just causes the ideas to metastasize. A lot of people will say all kinds of craziness, and you just have to let it ride so most of us can roll our eyes at it.
It seems to me that a lot of people are missing the forest for the trees on misinformation and censorship. IMO, a single YouTube channel promoting misinformation, about Covid or anything else, is not a huge problem, even if it has millions of followers.
The problem is that the recommendation algorithms push their viewers into these echo chambers that are divorced from reality where all they see are these videos promoting misinformation. Google's approach to combating that problem was to remove the channels, but the right solution was, and still is today, to fix the algorithms to prevent people from falling into echo chambers.
The problem with any system like this is that due to scale it will be automated which means a large swath of people will be caught up in it doing nothing wrong.
This is why perma bans are bad. Id rather a strike system before a temp ban to give some breathing room for people to navigate the inevitable incorrect automation. Even then if the copyright issue is anything to go by this is going to hurt more than help.
At the time, YouTube said: “Anything that would go against World Health Organization recommendations would be a violation of our policy.” [1] which, in my opinion, is a pretty extreme stance to take, especially considering that the WHO contradicted itself many times during the pandemic.
i'd like to think that if I were a YTer that got banned for saying something that I believed in that I would at least have the dignity not to take my value back to the group that squelched me.
I could go on. Feel free if you want to see more. :)
(Was it misinformation when Fauci said you shouldn't rush a vaccine or all hell breaks loose years later? Or when he intimated that masks wouldn't work for covid?)
There isn't really a good solution here. A precedent for banning speech isn't a good one, but COVID was a real problem and misinformation did hurt people.
The issue is that there is no mechanism for punishing people who spread dangerous misinformation. It's strange that it doesn't exist though, because you're allowed to sue for libel and slander. We know that it's harmful, because people will believe lies about a person, damaging their reputation. It's not clear why it can't be generalized to things that we have a high confidence of truth in and where lying is actively harmful.
We live in a complicated world, and we do need the freedom to get things right and wrong. Never easy though in times of crisis.
Silver lining in this is the conversation continued and will continue. I can see governments needing to try to get accurate and helpful information out in crisis - and needing to pressure or ask more of private companies to do that. But also like that we can reflect back and go - maybe that didn’t work like what we wanted or maybe it was heavy-handed.
In many governments, the government can do no wrong. There are no checks and balances.
The question is - should we still trust YouTube/Google? Is YouTube really some kind of champion of free speech? No. Is our current White House administration a champion of free speech? Hardly.
But hopefully we will still have a system that can have room for critique in the years to come.
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Good editorial: https://www.businessinsider.com/google-meta-congress-letter-...
Although if they got banned during the start of covid during the Trump administration then we're talking about 5 years.
I know that some services do this in addition to account ban.
This actually surprised me because I thought (and maybe still think) that it was Google employees that led the charge on this one.
The problem is that the recommendation algorithms push their viewers into these echo chambers that are divorced from reality where all they see are these videos promoting misinformation. Google's approach to combating that problem was to remove the channels, but the right solution was, and still is today, to fix the algorithms to prevent people from falling into echo chambers.
This is why perma bans are bad. Id rather a strike system before a temp ban to give some breathing room for people to navigate the inevitable incorrect automation. Even then if the copyright issue is anything to go by this is going to hurt more than help.
[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52388586
..but i'm not a yter.
First of all, you can't separate a thing's content from the platform it's hosted on? Really?
Second of all, this is why
I'll just go do this again and if you flag me it's on you, you have no standing to do it (the internet is supposed to be democratic, remember?)
https://rumble.com/v28x6zk-sasha-latypova-msc.-nsa-team-enig...
https://rumble.com/v3zh3fh-staggering-17m-deaths-after-covid...
https://rumble.com/vt62y6-covid-19-a-second-opinion.html
https://rumble.com/v2nxfvq-international-covid-summit-iii-pa...
I could go on. Feel free if you want to see more. :)
(Was it misinformation when Fauci said you shouldn't rush a vaccine or all hell breaks loose years later? Or when he intimated that masks wouldn't work for covid?)
The issue is that there is no mechanism for punishing people who spread dangerous misinformation. It's strange that it doesn't exist though, because you're allowed to sue for libel and slander. We know that it's harmful, because people will believe lies about a person, damaging their reputation. It's not clear why it can't be generalized to things that we have a high confidence of truth in and where lying is actively harmful.
Silver lining in this is the conversation continued and will continue. I can see governments needing to try to get accurate and helpful information out in crisis - and needing to pressure or ask more of private companies to do that. But also like that we can reflect back and go - maybe that didn’t work like what we wanted or maybe it was heavy-handed.
In many governments, the government can do no wrong. There are no checks and balances.
The question is - should we still trust YouTube/Google? Is YouTube really some kind of champion of free speech? No. Is our current White House administration a champion of free speech? Hardly.
But hopefully we will still have a system that can have room for critique in the years to come.