> GitHub issues are disabled on this repo to keep it on-topic and reduce argumentative discussions that go nowhere. Feel free to discuss this in all the usual places though.
I get that GitHub Issues for controversial repos tends to invite trolls, but "discuss this in all the usual places" guarantees there will be no traction.
I’m sure they don’t care today, but since these people proudly slap their names on their jeering comments, I imagine that someday their leftist children will read them and feel disgusted at the mocking cruelty. Will the authors feel shame then, I wonder? Or just more anger? The present political climate might make them feel righteous and invincible, but it is only a feeling.
From the linked DHH writing: “There's absolutely nothing racist or xenophobic in saying that Denmark is primarily a country for the Danes, Britain primarily a united kingdom for the Brits, and Japan primarily a set of islands for the Japanese.”
To clarify, who are the Brits exactly? Do the Irish, Scottish, and Welsh count, and who gets to say that? Also, the Ainu were there before the Japanese.
This is a big conflict in modern liberalism and democracy. If the british people vote for an ethnostate what are we supposed to do. subvert multicultural ideas? or subvert democracy?
Good point. British people don't really exist. What are even English or Scottish people? French people? European people? Where does it start, where does it end? We don't know.
We don't know what a white person is. No idea, no clue. Where could we even start?
Funnily enough, though, those considerations never seem to apply to Palestinians, native Americans, indigenous Australians, etc. There is only a certain group that is somehow impossible to define precisely, yet is the primary target of those considerations.
These people sound like they teleported straight out of a sociology classroom from 2017 or 2020 and didn’t catch what year it is. This whole puritanical bully culture is completely dead. Get out of your echochambers, and read the room already.
If you think rails is worth forking, fork it.
If you think it shouldn’t be used, don’t use it.
If you can’t be around a diversity of viewpoints, especially opinions that offend you, then get out of the kitchen.
It’s so typical of these people to wish everyone else to build the future they believe they deserve.
"We do not want to restrict DHH's freedom of speech, he can write and say what he likes. However, free speech is not "freedom from the consequences of that speech", and we as a community are completely free not to associate with people who hold views we find abhorrent."
I get it. Basically, "I don't want to associate with assholes". That's not unreasonable.
It’s fucked how normalized this sort of “Britain/US for Whites” rhetoric has become over the last few years. London is and always will be a global city. And praising Tommy Robinson as some sort of hero surely involves a degree of brain damage.
Honest question: would it be any different if someone were to write a piece complaining about the cultural identity of, say, Japan being lost due to American or European immigrants/tourists?
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[ 3.7 ms ] story [ 56.0 ms ] threadI get that GitHub Issues for controversial repos tends to invite trolls, but "discuss this in all the usual places" guarantees there will be no traction.
https://github.com/Plan-Vert/open-letter/pull/32
you are not ready for what's coming
To clarify, who are the Brits exactly? Do the Irish, Scottish, and Welsh count, and who gets to say that? Also, the Ainu were there before the Japanese.
Most Irish people would not take kindly to be called British, but then there’s Northern Ireland with all its complexities.
I'm Scots, not British. Roughly 50% of us support independence from the UK.
We don't know what a white person is. No idea, no clue. Where could we even start?
Funnily enough, though, those considerations never seem to apply to Palestinians, native Americans, indigenous Australians, etc. There is only a certain group that is somehow impossible to define precisely, yet is the primary target of those considerations.
Title is: Plan Vert - an open letter to the Rails Core team and Ruby community
They're already starting with the wrong incentive which is not to improve the thing but to spite someone.
If you think rails is worth forking, fork it.
If you think it shouldn’t be used, don’t use it.
If you can’t be around a diversity of viewpoints, especially opinions that offend you, then get out of the kitchen.
It’s so typical of these people to wish everyone else to build the future they believe they deserve.
Do the work, or go to hell.
As for trying to unseat the Rails founder and BDFL, no chance.
https://x.com/dkhan/status/1971243835218067754
"We do not want to restrict DHH's freedom of speech, he can write and say what he likes. However, free speech is not "freedom from the consequences of that speech", and we as a community are completely free not to associate with people who hold views we find abhorrent."
I get it. Basically, "I don't want to associate with assholes". That's not unreasonable.
It’s fucked how normalized this sort of “Britain/US for Whites” rhetoric has become over the last few years. London is and always will be a global city. And praising Tommy Robinson as some sort of hero surely involves a degree of brain damage.
Also what is your opinion on gentrification?