This is a surprising result. I wonder how they managed to convince people this was necessary.
There’s a real split in this debate, between people living in countries that have this and people living elsewhere. People who have used it are generally supportive, if they think about it at all. People who’ve never lived in a country with this are generally skeptical about the benefits and pessimistic about the downsides (privacy, mainly). HN being HN, is almost entirely in the latter camp regardless of where they live.
I would have expected the Swiss to be skeptical, and to some extent they were. This is the narrowest possible margin of victory. Still, it would be interesting to know what argument the Yes campaign used that resonated with > 50% of voters.
Finally a good use case for decentralized technology? From https://www.eid.admin.ch/en/technology
"The e-ID architecture is based on a decentralised identity model that gives users full control over their identity and personal data. There is no central authority that aggregates, stores or controls credentials. Data flows occur directly and in a decentralised manner between the holder and an issuer or verifier. Linkability of usage across different services is technically restricted. Interactions between different actors also cannot be directly linked. During a verification process, the holder shares only the necessary data directly with a verifier, without the issuer being informed."
- Very YES to smart-card based systems, like you get an ID card, driving license, ... who is also a contactless or contact smart-card for accessing with a card-reader on a desktop any public service
- Very NO if it's an app on non-FLOSS, non-open-hardware devices.
That's the real point. Then it's time to talk about rules as code, or at least bureaucracy as code. With a public OpenFisca "blockchain edition" where documents are signed and timestamped on the network and the blockchain is held by participant citizens, not only public bodies, using fees to compensate all participants.
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[ 3.2 ms ] story [ 38.6 ms ] threadI still believe it's the way forward.
On a technical level, I wonder if they will use verified credentials to drive this.
There’s a real split in this debate, between people living in countries that have this and people living elsewhere. People who have used it are generally supportive, if they think about it at all. People who’ve never lived in a country with this are generally skeptical about the benefits and pessimistic about the downsides (privacy, mainly). HN being HN, is almost entirely in the latter camp regardless of where they live.
I would have expected the Swiss to be skeptical, and to some extent they were. This is the narrowest possible margin of victory. Still, it would be interesting to know what argument the Yes campaign used that resonated with > 50% of voters.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45405675
Swiss voters back e-ID and abolish rental tax (swissinfo.ch)
Currently: 59 points & 52 comments
- Very YES to smart-card based systems, like you get an ID card, driving license, ... who is also a contactless or contact smart-card for accessing with a card-reader on a desktop any public service
- Very NO if it's an app on non-FLOSS, non-open-hardware devices.
That's the real point. Then it's time to talk about rules as code, or at least bureaucracy as code. With a public OpenFisca "blockchain edition" where documents are signed and timestamped on the network and the blockchain is held by participant citizens, not only public bodies, using fees to compensate all participants.