How about we just declare IPv4 addresses to be static as of ..yesterday. They are not unique of course, but at some level they are. Done. Solve a whole bunch of heart ache.
> The telephone system's address plan embedded a certain amount of physical location information in the fixed line network, and a full E.164 telephone number indicated your location in terms of your country, and your area within that country.
IP and geo location can work up to the state (country), that's it... and that doesn't include the roaming. IP location for mobile phones is based on the data center.
Roaming (commonly) keeps the person in the original state, regardless where they are. I can travel through out Europe, or Thailand, or the Canary Islands. I will still proudly reside in the capital where I don't live anyways.
> There have been persistent stories in a number of markets of Starlink resellers that set up a service in a country that has the necessary national regulatory approvals to use Starlink and then they ship the dish to a nearby location in a different country.
It's still baffling to me how Starlink is getting away with this.
It makes some sense for the old wide-beam geostationary services, like Inmarsat's legacy services, which are intrinsically hard to geolocate (the satellite beams for tehse cover huge areas and the operator has no technical reason to know where the client is located).
But for Starlink, which has a mandatory GPS receiver in every terminal and which uses spot beams smaller than some rural 5G cells?
Great for people in countries with authoritarian governments limiting their access to information, of course, but somehow I don't feel great about the broader implications on the credibility of international law.
The inconsistency in the Starlink data would suggest that they make use of different options to determine to which country their devices get applied to.
As mentioned here Starlink could provide very precise location and limit access but as growing service it’s more valuable to break rules for wider adoption.
And who could punish Starlink? Only the US and they are interested to let this player getting big and regulate later.
It's time to put an end to these attempts at geolocating Internet ussers. A website shouldn't know where I am connecting from unless I willingly provide that information. It's inevitably used against the user to track him, profile him, or restrict his freedom in some way.
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[ 2.9 ms ] story [ 26.2 ms ] thread[1] https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/10/21/1062001/spacex-s...
vs. modern reality
https://xkcd.com/1129/
(And who hasn't experienced a Customer Support phone number that is answered in different parts of the world, based on the time of day?)
Roaming (commonly) keeps the person in the original state, regardless where they are. I can travel through out Europe, or Thailand, or the Canary Islands. I will still proudly reside in the capital where I don't live anyways.
So just forget IP and geolocation.
He ran the whole thing from his home internet connection.
It's still baffling to me how Starlink is getting away with this.
It makes some sense for the old wide-beam geostationary services, like Inmarsat's legacy services, which are intrinsically hard to geolocate (the satellite beams for tehse cover huge areas and the operator has no technical reason to know where the client is located).
But for Starlink, which has a mandatory GPS receiver in every terminal and which uses spot beams smaller than some rural 5G cells?
Great for people in countries with authoritarian governments limiting their access to information, of course, but somehow I don't feel great about the broader implications on the credibility of international law.
As mentioned here Starlink could provide very precise location and limit access but as growing service it’s more valuable to break rules for wider adoption.
And who could punish Starlink? Only the US and they are interested to let this player getting big and regulate later.