I recently learned that there are digital pens now that almost perfectly resemble classical traditional writing tools, like the black and yellow Staedtler pencil.
I was so disappointed to learn that they won't work with current Wacom Cintiq line, and it took me while to figure that out.
I have been using that Staedtler pencil for almost three years. I absolutely love it. I think I'm on only my third or forth nib. I've used it with Note and S Ultra devices, and a Boox E-ink device.
You will want the Wacom Movink 13 and 14 and MovinkPad 11 for that.
For Wacom at least, it's not that bad, there are product lines (which are further sub-divided into generations):
- Pro: Intuos/Cintiq
- consumer
- specialized mobile/folding
and the styluses are specific to each, except for products which straddle a divide such as the Movink, or the strange case of a folding phone where the stylus uses the same frequency as the eraser of the consumer line (I suspect to prevent folks from damaging the hinge with a hard tip).
That said, it's pretty easy to gut a Wacom stylus and place the innards in any shell one wants.
That said, I miss some of the older products --- esp. the tracing pucks and the "airbrush" handles and the stylus ID which allowed one to assign different tools in Painter to different physical styluses and switch by putting one down and grabbing another.
That said, it's just magical that I can: take a note on my Kindle Scribe, switch to drawing on my Wacom One or Samsung Galaxy Book 3 Pro 360, and _not_ have to switch tools, since they all use the same stylus technology --- best of all, I'll never have to spend a weekend at my mother-in-law's w/o a stylus, since the stylus in my Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ serves as a backup (and for expressive drawing on the go I can get the Lamy Wacom Stylus out of my bag).
This is amazing. I recently got a Go 2 (no stylus but want one). I am a little apprehensive of Win 11, so until I am sure, I am duel booting with Fedora (which is working fine for most part).
> Are there any recommendations for stylus being used on MS hardware but running linux?
All references (understandably) assume windoes but there is literally no report that I could find for machines running linux. I am even unsure weather the requirements are purely hardware bound or also require proper software.
Any help will be appreciated.
Beyond the obvious business reasons to want to keep money in a walled garden with constantly dying plants that require buying fresh seeds, are there technical reasons why there are so many incompatible pen types?
There are three active stylus technologies. All of them require proprietary software support - two of which have strict non-forwards nor backwards compatibility.
Really wish that they had stuck w/ Wacom --- the pen technology not being the same as my phone (Samsung Galaxy Note 10+), e-book reader (Kindle Scribe), and desktop display (Wacom One, probably going to update to a Movink 13 or 14) is why I bought a Samsung Galaxy Book 12, then when it got long in the tooth, a Samsung Galaxy Book 3 Pro 360.
That said, it's hard to take Microsoft seriously on styluses when they crippled them to an 11th touch input in Fall Creators Update:
I'm getting sick of leaving the Settings app open so that I can toggle how the sytlus behaves, depending on which app I'm using, so I'm looking into making a cyberdeck w/ an rPi 5 and a Wacom One 13 Gen 2 display.
- By far the most popular use case of digital pens is drawing arts on a computer. Often anime, sometimes 3D.
- Wacom is the king for artists. They also still hold some patents btw.
- Wacom is DEFINITELY NOT THE KING for note taking and other non-art purposes. Laggy, parallax is huge, API is proprietary, etc.
- Due to above, both Microsoft and Apple tried to replace Wacom by various means with not anime art use cases in mind but not ruling it out completely, from buying Israeli startups to reinventing stylus.
- The situations up until here threatened Wacom enough that it started upgrading and fragmenting pen implementations.
- The situations down to this line caused bunch of players to join into the game, further fragmenting implementations.
- And that had caused bunch of incompatible pen implementations, with limited successes with various standardization attempts. And here we are.
- And by the way, Wacom is still the king for most pen buyers.
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Pen compatibility is a mess.
For Wacom at least, it's not that bad, there are product lines (which are further sub-divided into generations):
- Pro: Intuos/Cintiq
- consumer
- specialized mobile/folding
and the styluses are specific to each, except for products which straddle a divide such as the Movink, or the strange case of a folding phone where the stylus uses the same frequency as the eraser of the consumer line (I suspect to prevent folks from damaging the hinge with a hard tip).
That said, it's pretty easy to gut a Wacom stylus and place the innards in any shell one wants.
That said, I miss some of the older products --- esp. the tracing pucks and the "airbrush" handles and the stylus ID which allowed one to assign different tools in Painter to different physical styluses and switch by putting one down and grabbing another.
That said, it's just magical that I can: take a note on my Kindle Scribe, switch to drawing on my Wacom One or Samsung Galaxy Book 3 Pro 360, and _not_ have to switch tools, since they all use the same stylus technology --- best of all, I'll never have to spend a weekend at my mother-in-law's w/o a stylus, since the stylus in my Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ serves as a backup (and for expressive drawing on the go I can get the Lamy Wacom Stylus out of my bag).
> Are there any recommendations for stylus being used on MS hardware but running linux?
All references (understandably) assume windoes but there is literally no report that I could find for machines running linux. I am even unsure weather the requirements are purely hardware bound or also require proper software. Any help will be appreciated.
Please report back on who wins the duel. I assume lances, not pistols?
That said, it's hard to take Microsoft seriously on styluses when they crippled them to an 11th touch input in Fall Creators Update:
https://github.com/TheJoeFin/Windows10-Community/issues/17
I'm getting sick of leaving the Settings app open so that I can toggle how the sytlus behaves, depending on which app I'm using, so I'm looking into making a cyberdeck w/ an rPi 5 and a Wacom One 13 Gen 2 display.