I just don't understand why people accept the sheer arrogance of the design of Tesla vehicles.
I don't need to worry about the programming of the computer controlling the door handle in a Honda civic - it's mechanical and will work in basically all circumstances excluding catastrophic mechanical damage - in which case there's 3 backups on the other doors or I'm crushed anyway and it's irrelevant. Meanwhile I hear story after story of various components on Teslas failing in all sorts of ridiculous circumstances - I recall cybertrucks having issues in car washes.
It's completely unclear to me from this article if they failed to open because of computer control or mechanical damage. The car was on fire, I think, that's not exactly a trivial crash (though the 2nd article a fire chief says it didn't look like heavy damage to cause a fire) And they only got 1 of 4 out before the rest died? It doesn't take much to make a door hard to open or a lock fail to operate. They were also intoxicated.
What scares me, as a new volunteer fire/ems, with these is how prone to fire they are and how hard it is to stop the fire once thermal runaway has started. Especially when you are trying to pull someone out.
But as I said I have no idea from this article what happened, incredibly badly written. I'm not a fan of tesla but it almost feels like a 0 data hit piece. It's very hard to understand anything from this article.
But all you need to do to open the door mechanically is rummage around in the rear door pocket, remove the rubber mat, then pull the mechanical release cable: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/T4Rs2OQLrWw
What could be simpler after getting into a crash?
And there is no reason to talk about how people burn to death in Tesla's at ~4x the per-mile rate of the average car. I mean, Tesla releases intentionally deceptive statistics on their website [1] to convince you that you have ~8x the probability of getting into a fire in a non-Tesla and just intentionally not informing customers about the part where those fires are ~32x more likely to kill you. And that 4x excess fire death rate only results in like 4x as many excess fire deaths per year as the Ford Pinto; so really what is the harm?
According to Bowers while speaking to local Fox affiliate KTVU, a bystander had gotten out of his car and pulled the surviving occupant out from the mangled vehicle.
From this[1] earlier article.
I've heard plenty of stories of regular cars having their doors get stuck in crashes, due to the frame bending, and firefighters having to cut the vehicle to get people out.
That said, seems[2] the electronic latches have been an issue for some time:
On October 24, just after midnight, a Tesla Model Y with five people inside crashed into a guard rail on a Toronto street, bursting into flames.
The car’s electronic door latches wouldn’t open, so rescuers couldn’t get in -- and the victims couldn’t get out.
And it’s not the first time something like this has happened. Back in 2019, a doctor in South Florida crashed his Tesla Model S into a palm tree, and the electronic doors wouldn’t open. He was trapped inside and died.
It hit a tree at like 70-80mph - no car is going to have doors that work properly after the entire frame is deformed like that, it’s not about the handles
> "Krysta tried to come up, sticking her head [out] from the back, I grabbed her arm to try and pull her towards me, but she retreated because of the fire."
Weird way to end the story. I mean, what happened next? She died of the fire I presume?
Stupid af to do drugs and drive, very sad for everyone involved.
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[ 2.8 ms ] story [ 39.7 ms ] threadI don't need to worry about the programming of the computer controlling the door handle in a Honda civic - it's mechanical and will work in basically all circumstances excluding catastrophic mechanical damage - in which case there's 3 backups on the other doors or I'm crushed anyway and it's irrelevant. Meanwhile I hear story after story of various components on Teslas failing in all sorts of ridiculous circumstances - I recall cybertrucks having issues in car washes.
It's insanity.
It's completely unclear to me from this article if they failed to open because of computer control or mechanical damage. The car was on fire, I think, that's not exactly a trivial crash (though the 2nd article a fire chief says it didn't look like heavy damage to cause a fire) And they only got 1 of 4 out before the rest died? It doesn't take much to make a door hard to open or a lock fail to operate. They were also intoxicated.
What scares me, as a new volunteer fire/ems, with these is how prone to fire they are and how hard it is to stop the fire once thermal runaway has started. Especially when you are trying to pull someone out.
But as I said I have no idea from this article what happened, incredibly badly written. I'm not a fan of tesla but it almost feels like a 0 data hit piece. It's very hard to understand anything from this article.
• buy a car where the doors and not mechanical
• buy a car with a huge screen in the middle
• drink and drive
• do cocaine
What could be simpler after getting into a crash?
And there is no reason to talk about how people burn to death in Tesla's at ~4x the per-mile rate of the average car. I mean, Tesla releases intentionally deceptive statistics on their website [1] to convince you that you have ~8x the probability of getting into a fire in a non-Tesla and just intentionally not informing customers about the part where those fires are ~32x more likely to kill you. And that 4x excess fire death rate only results in like 4x as many excess fire deaths per year as the Ford Pinto; so really what is the harm?
[1] https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport
Do you have a source for that?
From this[1] earlier article.
I've heard plenty of stories of regular cars having their doors get stuck in crashes, due to the frame bending, and firefighters having to cut the vehicle to get people out.
That said, seems[2] the electronic latches have been an issue for some time:
On October 24, just after midnight, a Tesla Model Y with five people inside crashed into a guard rail on a Toronto street, bursting into flames.
The car’s electronic door latches wouldn’t open, so rescuers couldn’t get in -- and the victims couldn’t get out.
And it’s not the first time something like this has happened. Back in 2019, a doctor in South Florida crashed his Tesla Model S into a palm tree, and the electronic doors wouldn’t open. He was trapped inside and died.
[1]: https://www.newsweek.com/3-dead-after-tesla-cybertruck-crash...
[2]: https://www.azfamily.com/2024/11/22/deadly-crash-highlights-...
Hardly a surprise that the Tesla engineers come from the same breed.
Source: my brother and a tree.
[1] https://www.ebay.com/itm/306430144366
Weird way to end the story. I mean, what happened next? She died of the fire I presume?
Stupid af to do drugs and drive, very sad for everyone involved.
More recent, today:
Tesla Is Sued by Family Who Says Faulty Doors Led to Daughter's Death
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45456032