> The existence of two black holes in OJ287 was first suggested in 1982. Aimo Sillanpää, then a graduate student at the University of Turku, observed that the brightness of the quasar changed regularly over a 12-year cycle.
Damn, that's about the time it takes Jupiter to orbit the sun. That feels wildly close together for objects that mass 18 billion & 150 million times that of our own sun.
These black holes (according to a calculator I found online) have radii of 53 billion km and 400 million km, so I'm guessing they must be orbiting significantly further away, and significantly faster than Jupiter (which is ~800 million km away from the sun) - which makes sense, given the monstrous 18b figure. I wonder how far apart they are, but I don't really know how to easily calculate that right now.
You made me wonder about the orbital speed of a planet circling one of these supermassive black holes, and how fast it would be... and then I realized, of course, the orbital speed would approach the speed of light at the event horizon.
There's a SF story waiting to be written about a planet just over that radius, traveling at something like 0.99c. Years would takes seconds, and seem even faster since they'd be significantly time-dilated. Of course, they'd quickly spiral in.
This system, OJ287, is perhaps the most important system we have for understanding what happens to supermassive black holes after a galaxy merger. This is the so-called "Last Parsec Problem."
When two galaxies merge, their supermassive black holes fairly rapidly sink to the center of mass of the newly combined galaxy via dynamical friction and enter into a slow orbit around each other. Over time, the SMBHs kick out interloping stars, which removes energy from the orbit and causes the two SMBHs to come closer together. If the SMBHs were able to get within ~0.1 parsecs of each other, gravitational wave radiation could take over and cause the orbit to shrink fairly rapidly and lead to the merger of the two SMBHs.
However, the theoretical models we have generally predict that at about 1 parsec, the SMBHs have kicked out all the stars in their neighborhood, so the process stalls out. In practice we don't observe many SMBH binary systems (OJ287 being the main exception), so there must be some mechanism that causes these systems to shrink from 1 pc to 0.1 pc. But we don't know what it is. The hope is that detailed studies of the orbit of OJ287 can provide some clues as to what that missing mechanism is.
Why can't they dissipate momentum by ejecting interloping matter that is smaller than individual stars, such as regions of interstellar-medium density gas?
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[ 4.5 ms ] story [ 26.3 ms ] threadDamn, that's about the time it takes Jupiter to orbit the sun. That feels wildly close together for objects that mass 18 billion & 150 million times that of our own sun.
These black holes (according to a calculator I found online) have radii of 53 billion km and 400 million km, so I'm guessing they must be orbiting significantly further away, and significantly faster than Jupiter (which is ~800 million km away from the sun) - which makes sense, given the monstrous 18b figure. I wonder how far apart they are, but I don't really know how to easily calculate that right now.
There's a SF story waiting to be written about a planet just over that radius, traveling at something like 0.99c. Years would takes seconds, and seem even faster since they'd be significantly time-dilated. Of course, they'd quickly spiral in.
When two galaxies merge, their supermassive black holes fairly rapidly sink to the center of mass of the newly combined galaxy via dynamical friction and enter into a slow orbit around each other. Over time, the SMBHs kick out interloping stars, which removes energy from the orbit and causes the two SMBHs to come closer together. If the SMBHs were able to get within ~0.1 parsecs of each other, gravitational wave radiation could take over and cause the orbit to shrink fairly rapidly and lead to the merger of the two SMBHs.
However, the theoretical models we have generally predict that at about 1 parsec, the SMBHs have kicked out all the stars in their neighborhood, so the process stalls out. In practice we don't observe many SMBH binary systems (OJ287 being the main exception), so there must be some mechanism that causes these systems to shrink from 1 pc to 0.1 pc. But we don't know what it is. The hope is that detailed studies of the orbit of OJ287 can provide some clues as to what that missing mechanism is.