> This cross-language composition remains remarkably rare in modern development, where we typically force everything into a single language ecosystem and its assumptions.
I think IPC via HTTP, gRPC, Kafka, files, etc allows language decoupling pretty well. Intra-process communication is primarily single-language, though you can generally call from language X into C-language libs. Cross-process, I don't see where the assertion comes from.
Wouldn't passing comms through a C ABI still be placing everything into a single language? Or am I conflating communication protocol with 'language'? My parser/combinator/interpreter senses are tingling.
When cat writes to stdout, it doesn't block waiting for grep to process that data.
It will certainly do that if the buffer is full.
prevents the implicit blocking
No, that's exactly the case of implicit blocking mentioned above.
Does anyone else find this article rather AI-ish? The extreme verbosity and repetitiveness, the use of dashes, and "The limitation isn't conceptual—it's syntactic" are notable artifacts.
Also viewing Unix pipes as some special class of file descriptor because your Intro to OS professor didn't teach you anything more sophisticated than shell pipe syntax is kinda dumb.
File descriptor-based IPC has none of the restrictions discussed in this article. They're not restricted to text (and the author does point this out), they're not restricted to linear topologies, they work perfectly fine in parallel environments (I have no idea what this section is talking about), and in Unix-land processes and threads are identically "heavy" (Windows is different).
Unix pipelines got something right by being a syntactic sugar for chaining pure function application. It's easy to get excited when you don't understand this.
For instance sqrt(sin(cos(theta))) can be notated < theta | cos | sin | sqrt.
Pipeline syntax implemented in functional languages expands into chained function invocation.
Everything follows from that: what we know about combining functions applies to pipes.
> When cat writes to stdout, it doesn't block waiting for grep to process that data.
That says nothing more than that nested function invocations admit non-strict evaluation strategies. E.g. the argument of a function need not be reduced to a value before it is passed to another, which can proceed with a calculation which depends on that result before obtaining it.
When you expand the actual data dependencies into a tree, it's obvious to see what can be done in parallel.
> The lack of fan-out makes it awkward to express combinations where one sender feeds many receivers. In 1970, avoiding garbage collection was a practical necessity, but today garbage collection is available in most programming workflows and fan-out could be implemented much more easily through message copying rather than consumption.
Fanout has precisely zero dependency on GC. For example ‘tee’ has been around for decades and it can copy io streams just fine.
But without a common runtime the closest you could really get to that in Unix would be to pass JSON or XML about, and have every program have a "pipe" mode that accepted that as input.
Which seems like an awful lot of work and unlikely to get the kind of buy in you'd need to make it work widely.
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[ 0.22 ms ] story [ 30.2 ms ] threadI think IPC via HTTP, gRPC, Kafka, files, etc allows language decoupling pretty well. Intra-process communication is primarily single-language, though you can generally call from language X into C-language libs. Cross-process, I don't see where the assertion comes from.
It will certainly do that if the buffer is full.
prevents the implicit blocking
No, that's exactly the case of implicit blocking mentioned above.
Does anyone else find this article rather AI-ish? The extreme verbosity and repetitiveness, the use of dashes, and "The limitation isn't conceptual—it's syntactic" are notable artifacts.
Also viewing Unix pipes as some special class of file descriptor because your Intro to OS professor didn't teach you anything more sophisticated than shell pipe syntax is kinda dumb.
File descriptor-based IPC has none of the restrictions discussed in this article. They're not restricted to text (and the author does point this out), they're not restricted to linear topologies, they work perfectly fine in parallel environments (I have no idea what this section is talking about), and in Unix-land processes and threads are identically "heavy" (Windows is different).
For instance sqrt(sin(cos(theta))) can be notated < theta | cos | sin | sqrt.
Pipeline syntax implemented in functional languages expands into chained function invocation.
Everything follows from that: what we know about combining functions applies to pipes.
> When cat writes to stdout, it doesn't block waiting for grep to process that data.
That says nothing more than that nested function invocations admit non-strict evaluation strategies. E.g. the argument of a function need not be reduced to a value before it is passed to another, which can proceed with a calculation which depends on that result before obtaining it.
When you expand the actual data dependencies into a tree, it's obvious to see what can be done in parallel.
Fanout has precisely zero dependency on GC. For example ‘tee’ has been around for decades and it can copy io streams just fine.
There has been some effort to built fanout shells too. With a discussion in HN earlier this month on one called dgsh https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45425298
Edit: I agree with other comments that this feels like AI slop
But without a common runtime the closest you could really get to that in Unix would be to pass JSON or XML about, and have every program have a "pipe" mode that accepted that as input.
Which seems like an awful lot of work and unlikely to get the kind of buy in you'd need to make it work widely.