most Silicon Valley developers are on macOS, it's easier for them to develop for it, test it, also they get a smaller audience of other developers on macOS that are more willing to pay.
So openAI's answer to Perplexity's Comet. I'm afraid this will be the future, as these AI-browsers do truly bring value. But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf.
I really hope open-source Browsers like Firefox follow up soon with better alternatives, like on-device LLMs to counteract the "all in the cloud" LLM approach. Of course that would require top-tier ML engineers who mostly all are pay-captured by Big Tech.
> I'm afraid this will be the future, as these AI-browsers do truly bring value. But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf.
Oooh boy, thanks, but no thanks. I don't want a BitTech to know everything about me and my browsing habit.
Yet I wonder how these browser behave when you are visiting your Friday night porn site?
Also, your comment made me think about the fact that free AI is dead in a near feature because it probably is economically unsustainable. Consequently, pay to browse might around the corner. Or ..., like for the for all those social networks, we all be the product. Is AI powered browsers the dead of our freedom ?
> But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf.
We have had that for over a decade, and the Big Tech is called Google. By owning Android, Google pretty much owns and knows everything about its users. The same applies to Apple.
If you think this is useful... remember technology like this would make totalitarian leaders foam at the mouth.
If you thought that ads are creepy, Atlas is a root level keylogger service. Why would you want an AI company scraping and recording all of your browser interactions.
Yes Google already does this via Chrome. It's one thing to build a predictive model on your demographic, spending, location and income information in order to target then sell you advertisements...
Quite another thing to build a model of your cognition by recording you from a company that is trying to build general intelligence - this is a training data and cognition exfiltration play.
I haven't used LLM chrome plugins because I couldn't trust that they weren't collecting more information about my browsing than I'd like. The same concern exists for this, though now I'm just confident it's a giant software company with access to my data rather than some shady plugin developer. I'm faced with asking myself if that's actually better...
I have a feeling that data collection is the entire point. Websites like reddit are locking out scrapers since they want to sell the data to AI companies. Owning a browser would mean AI companies can scrape every page you visit, bypassing the bot detection.
Anyone feel like OpenAI is acting like Google lately? They announce a lot of products/features and then kill them when they realize people don't use them[0]. They also announce products way before they're ready for launch, just like google[1].
- GPT Plugins? (HN went crazy over this, they called it the "app store moment"...)
- GPTs?!
- Schedules?
- Operator?
- The original "codex" model?
[0]: I know, the diff is that google kills them despite knowing that many people use them.
[1]: I know, the diff is that google sometimes doesn't launch the announced product at all...
So ChatGPT can now watch me search for 'how to stop using ChatGPT'? At this rate, Atlas will soon remind me to go outside before I ask it whether going outside is a good idea.
I really wish they'd put the fact that the user is using ChatGPT Atlas in the User-Agent string or Sec-Ch-Ua header so that administrators can filter this browser accordingly.
Chrome / Firefox / Edge and others will have their own AI implementation sooner or later. OpenAI's choice is whether they want to be a second class citizen competing with a native AI integration, or start their own country where they are the ones setting the rules.
> ChatGPT Atlas, the browser with ChatGPT built it.
I know HN's rules disallow nitpicking, but I find this kind of error, right at the top of a product launch of a gigantic software automation company, a delicious slice of irony.
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Meanwhile OpenAI goes brr ...
Is this browser built on Chromium, or is it a completely fresh creation?
I have to assume that because they AREN'T highlighting it that it IS built on Chromium.
I really hope open-source Browsers like Firefox follow up soon with better alternatives, like on-device LLMs to counteract the "all in the cloud" LLM approach. Of course that would require top-tier ML engineers who mostly all are pay-captured by Big Tech.
https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/ai/ai-tech/ai-link-previ...
Oooh boy, thanks, but no thanks. I don't want a BitTech to know everything about me and my browsing habit.
Yet I wonder how these browser behave when you are visiting your Friday night porn site?
Also, your comment made me think about the fact that free AI is dead in a near feature because it probably is economically unsustainable. Consequently, pay to browse might around the corner. Or ..., like for the for all those social networks, we all be the product. Is AI powered browsers the dead of our freedom ?
Hasn't this gate been open since Chrome conquered the browser market years ago?
> these AI-browsers do truly bring value
Do they? Truly?
> a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you
Again?
We have had that for over a decade, and the Big Tech is called Google. By owning Android, Google pretty much owns and knows everything about its users. The same applies to Apple.
If you thought that ads are creepy, Atlas is a root level keylogger service. Why would you want an AI company scraping and recording all of your browser interactions.
Yes Google already does this via Chrome. It's one thing to build a predictive model on your demographic, spending, location and income information in order to target then sell you advertisements...
Quite another thing to build a model of your cognition by recording you from a company that is trying to build general intelligence - this is a training data and cognition exfiltration play.
Definitely improves and opens up new ad targeting opportunities for OpenAI.
- GPT Plugins? (HN went crazy over this, they called it the "app store moment"...)
- GPTs?!
- Schedules?
- Operator?
- The original "codex" model?
[0]: I know, the diff is that google kills them despite knowing that many people use them.
[1]: I know, the diff is that google sometimes doesn't launch the announced product at all...
OpenAI is still going to run over everyone else except for Chrome and Comet, unless they remove the login wall.
Are these extension-fodder:
- "new tab" shows custom UI with LLM prompt
- Reads contents of user's web page in Chat UI, shown alongside web page
- new UI gizmo at Text-selection, showing ChatGPT flower icon, with context features available for selected text
- maintains "agent personality / context" (IDK the term) across tabs
I know HN's rules disallow nitpicking, but I find this kind of error, right at the top of a product launch of a gigantic software automation company, a delicious slice of irony.