Hadn't really heard of FUTO before to be honest, no idea that Rossmann was involved in something like that. Seems like a cool project, thanks for sharing Drew.
FUTO sent me money for a production server with no strings attached. Seem to be nice people, if possibly a bit inexperienced with charity work. Eron came off as very much the archetype of a Gen-X tech bro what little I spoke with him.
Whether a donor's politics are red or blue, their dollar bills are still green. Turning money down, especially when no strings are attached, is just self sabotage.
Dunno if that puts me on Drew's Pepe Silvia wall but whatever.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you're simply uniformed about Curtis Yarvin and his politics, and think this is just another culture war slap fight.
Go look him up and then decide whether you want to reconsider your stance on the issue. You have that responsibility if you took their money.
Just because you're not aware of where the strings are attached yet doesn't mean there aren't any. There very well may be none, or they may be unsaid - one historical example:
In any case, the examples of donations being given through unconventional channels, then reusing the name/logos as marketing/endorsement for FUTO without obtaining permission, feels very problematic.
Drew's moral grandstanding is at odds with HN culture, so of course it's never going to be well received here. And to a point, HN is right to reject it because it's pointless: fascism is obviously coming and nothing can stop it.
Nothing can stop it, not because those evil men are too powerful, they're clowns. Nothing can stop it because, as Orwell says, modern man is inadequate for modern times.
> Modern man is rather like a bisected wasp which goes on sucking jam and pretends that the loss of its abdomen does not matter
I only know their YouTube app grayjay but I don't really like it because puts all this futo stuff in my video feed. A video player should get out of the way.
This reminds me of when Rossman was accused of transphobia and other prejudices because he created a KF account solely to respond to things said about him in his own dedicated thread on that site, without posting anywhere else. Pure guilt-by-association tactics.
DeVault apparently considers anything short of complete deplatforming (even spirited debate) as a form of sympathizing, and probably would regard even Robin Hanson (who debated Yarvin) as a kind of cryptofascist--which is funny, since the only effective push-back Yarvin ever gets is from conservatives, who (besides preaching to the same choir), still preferring debate to deplatforming, haven't suffered the atrophy of their rhetorical muscles that afflicts progressives[1]. Meanwhile the man hysterically paranoid about creeping fascism and fascist sympathizing is himself a well-documented lolicon addict[2].
It is cute, however, that he thinks it's still 2015 and not 2025, and that he can write pro-censorship, pearl-clutchy stuff like this:
> and Odysee, the latter a platform controversial for its role in spreading hate speech and misinformation.
In some way I'm as almost relieved that Yarvin's acolytes are still operating at the level of writing weird internet manifestos and faking endorsements from open source projects.
After all the talk about "dark enlightenment" and the connection to Musk and Thiel, I'd have expected Yarvin to already have an office in the White House or at least ministry of state somewhere.
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[ 52.6 ms ] story [ 2409 ms ] threadWhether a donor's politics are red or blue, their dollar bills are still green. Turning money down, especially when no strings are attached, is just self sabotage.
Dunno if that puts me on Drew's Pepe Silvia wall but whatever.
Go look him up and then decide whether you want to reconsider your stance on the issue. You have that responsibility if you took their money.
https://www.computerworld.com/article/1338390/darpa-pulls-fu...
In any case, the examples of donations being given through unconventional channels, then reusing the name/logos as marketing/endorsement for FUTO without obtaining permission, feels very problematic.
Nothing can stop it, not because those evil men are too powerful, they're clowns. Nothing can stop it because, as Orwell says, modern man is inadequate for modern times.
> Modern man is rather like a bisected wasp which goes on sucking jam and pretends that the loss of its abdomen does not matter
I prefer smarttubenext (tv) and revanced.
DeVault apparently considers anything short of complete deplatforming (even spirited debate) as a form of sympathizing, and probably would regard even Robin Hanson (who debated Yarvin) as a kind of cryptofascist--which is funny, since the only effective push-back Yarvin ever gets is from conservatives, who (besides preaching to the same choir), still preferring debate to deplatforming, haven't suffered the atrophy of their rhetorical muscles that afflicts progressives[1]. Meanwhile the man hysterically paranoid about creeping fascism and fascist sympathizing is himself a well-documented lolicon addict[2].
It is cute, however, that he thinks it's still 2015 and not 2025, and that he can write pro-censorship, pearl-clutchy stuff like this:
> and Odysee, the latter a platform controversial for its role in spreading hate speech and misinformation.
and still be taken seriously.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcSil8NeQq8
[2] https://dmpwn.info/
After all the talk about "dark enlightenment" and the connection to Musk and Thiel, I'd have expected Yarvin to already have an office in the White House or at least ministry of state somewhere.