I've personally known Ari, the guy behind Sky, since the mid 2000s when he was a frequent visitor to the forum insanelymac.com, back when OSx86 was a big deal. Even back then, he really stood out and I'm glad he's continuing to make waves.
btw: Don't know what they think their competitive advantage is going to be with this. Either apple will just clone it, or more likely and quicker (and probably already done) there will be a better open-source version of this that let's you freely choose your local/cloud LLM model provider.
Workflow / Shortcuts was a neat idea that never really worked or expanded beyond a small group of users. I don't think you can really extrapolate "great hackers" from that. The programming interface they exposed was truly awful and the tools around it weren't much better.
I'm not an IOS guy so I'm trying to track this - from the thread I'm to gather this allows robotic process automation on IOS which I guess isn't easy to do? I could see the use case if you're trying to build an agent that can navigate and use apps on IOS.
Here's the question - why is this difficult on IOS? What "magic" does Sky bring to the table to make this happen?
I've been thinking more recently, do you think that an OpenAi-Apple merger will happen this cycle as it did with AOL-TimeWarner in the past? The thought being that an aging gatekeeper attempts to merge with an up-and-coming company when they feel it's too late to be relevant only for there to be another paradigm shift that obsoletes that decision. Though that is very much speculation.
I actually think it's smart of Apple to play it safe, considering all the hype and insanity around LLM's. Also, OpenAI's valuation is not grounded in actual revenue so I doubt it's a good deal to buy them right now. Don't they have something like >400 P/E?
Congrats to the Sky app developers, so OpenAI believes that the future is in computer assistants?
I don't buy this, it doesn't make sense to me that tools and interfaces made for human comfort and consumption is the right place to plug the AI to automate our lives.
IMHO the computing is ripe for a re-do with everything already being enshitified and putting another lay to cover all the shit we are in isn't going to help anybody.
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> With LLMs, we can finally put the pieces together.
I think this is true
> That’s why we built Sky, an AI experience that floats over your desktop to help you think and create.
Never mind, hard pass
The Sky's the limit: AI automation on Mac - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44179691 - June 2025 (71 comments)
Sky, Natural Computing for the Macintosh - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44121891 - May 2025 (4 comments)
Here's the question - why is this difficult on IOS? What "magic" does Sky bring to the table to make this happen?
I don't buy this, it doesn't make sense to me that tools and interfaces made for human comfort and consumption is the right place to plug the AI to automate our lives.
IMHO the computing is ripe for a re-do with everything already being enshitified and putting another lay to cover all the shit we are in isn't going to help anybody.
I see nothing wrong with this! What could go wrong?
Sorra, Atlas, buying Sky.
There have been signs that Apple is going with Anthropic instead of OpenAI for integrating AI features.
This may partially be an aggressive strategic push to take the wind of out such a potential partnership.