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What the actual #*!@...

Well, anybody have any modern simulation models for fallout distribution after a nuclear war between the USA and Russia?

This is confusing, the Russian and Chinese 'nuclear weapons tests' mentioned in the article didn't involve testing nuclear weapons, but Trump wants to test nuclear weapons in response? Did I read that right?
The statement lacked any detail. It's just attention whoring.

The US is conducting nuclear tests periodically just like other nuclear powers. Subcritical nuclear testing is allowed. The last one was in 2024 https://www.energy.gov/nnsa/articles/nnsa-completes-subcriti... "NNSA successfully executed a subcritical experiment in the PULSE facility at the Nevada National Security Site. The experiment was executed in partnership with Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory."

> The statement lacked any detail. It's just attention whoring

Everything is now. That’s what you get when you build a mind rape device that explicitly rewards attention whoring an other antisocial behavior.

This is Trump, when he says, "test", he wants to see mushroom clouds.
So much for nuclear non-proliferation...

One of the best benefits of the current no live nuclear testing treaties / environment, was that the United States was one of a few countries that had done extensive live tests early on.

The United States is able to sit on its arsenal and data, and with extensive research and simulation validate to a high degree of accuracy that "hey our bombs still work".

Most countries do not have the data/technical expertise/resources to be able to validate with just simulation. But since no-one else is doing live tests, they do not do live tests either.

How much do you want to bet that a subset of the Russian nuclear weapons simply do not work, and that they will only figure this out when they need to 'test' in response to American tests.

My bet is that it is non-0.

this is cover for Russia, Trump+Putin want to scare the world into a Ukraine war settlement
So let's see we've allowed all the arms control treaties to lapse, every single major power is investing more in armaments including nuclear delivery systems.

There is a huge active conflict in Ukraine, right in Europe, the Middle East and many other places like Africa. Many more conflicts are brewing like in Latin America, China, India/Pakistan etc.

There should be alarm bells going off. People aren't aware of just how massive and devastating this threat is.

In the 1980s there were huge protests about jucelar weapons that actually resulted in detente and a relaxation of tensions.

Right now tensions and conflicts are rising. Many people think the threat of nuclear weapons went away after the cold war. They never did.

Where are the peace movements? There has to be popular pressure to institute arms control, make peace and ultimately dismantle these nuclear weapons.

The language that came out around the middle of the Ukraine war was the possibility of a "targeted low-yield tactical nuke". It was almost being talked about as if that's better and fine to do. Orwell lives on, misuse of language is such a thing toward all kinds of bad.

Nuclear testing just means it's game-on. Every other country will need to do testing to match the show of force. This is insanity. None of the doom-sayers were hyperbolic, voting in an idiot is truly dangerous.

Former Apprentice Star Donald Trump wins the US Presidency and re-enables nuclear testing

What the fuck is going on?

Has an armed society not been a polite society?

Genuine question.

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> In the 1980s there were huge protests about jucelar weapons that actually resulted in detente and a relaxation of tensions.

Really? Yes there were protests, in the west (that sort of thing was generally frowned upon in the Eastern Bloc countries), but they didn't do much.

What I recall happening was that one of the principle parties started to suffer from a worsening economy and could sustainably maintain the spending the cold war demanded. When that party became much more conciliatory, progress on arms control resulted. Didn't end up saving them in the end.

nuclear bombs, moon landings wow

it's like the 1960s again, but with old people

I really recommend watching A House Of Dynamite, the new movie by Kathryn Bigelow, which provides a highly realistic view of just how insane the entire nuclear system is. All of us live in a constant state of enormous danger: we are just 20 minutes away from apocalypse at all times. Even if you believe that nuclear deterrence is what prevents great power conflict, there is no avoiding the fact that it would take just one mistake or one technical failure or one mentally ill submarine commander to end civilization. We have to fix this, not make it worse!
I thought that movie was so disappointing. I enjoyed the first part of it but then it just starts repeating the same conversations from different camera angles over and over again, and finally chickens out with one of those "you interpret this!" endings without answering any questions. I had to rewind to see if I blacked out when the credits rolled.
One of the greatest stories from the first Trump presidency is him suggesting a "tenfold" increase in the United States nuclear arsenal, and Rex Tillerson subsequently calling him a "fucking moron".
This is likely a pretty big win for China/Russia if he follows through with it - USA has advanced nuclear weapon simulation capabilities which almost certainly outstrip theirs, so has a reduced need to conduct non sub-critical tests.
This madman needs to be stopped
Nuclear weapon testing and development is very much needed. Nuclear weapon technologies have been stymied for decades. Humanity is under a possible threat from some sort of Non Human Intelligence whose drones and craft constitute most UAP sightings. All of this is kept secret for decades, and nuclear weapons are by far Humanity's most effective defense as we study these beings and craft.
To me the real question is what kind of trust has eroded that Americans stopped electing smart people into office.
Really working hard towards that Nobel peace prize.
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This follows in the wake of some fast-moving developments in the nuclear-war field. If you haven't been following it: on the one hand, the US leadership is championing a trillion-dollar space-based missile defense for, quote, "forever ending the missile threat to the American homeland"—i.e. upending "Mutually Assured Destruction"[0,1]. In response (not an immediate response—this has been going back-and-forth since the US withdrew from the Anti-Ballistic Missile treaty in 2002), Russia just days ago test-flew a *nuclear-powered* subsonic cruise missile for 14,000 kilometers[2,3]. That machine's intended for delivering nuclear weapons to the US, in a way that putatively sidesteps the current ideas for missile defenses.

[0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/interactive/2025/m... ("Golden Dome missile defense system could cost over $1 trillion")

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dome_(missile_defense_s... ("Golden Dome (missile defense system)")

[2] https://www.reuters.com/world/china/russia-tested-new-nuclea... ("Russia tested new nuclear-powered Burevestnik cruise missile")

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9M730_Burevestnik ("9M730 Burevestnik")

America is going rogue.

We have to thank that this guy doesn't understand software otherwise he'd have banned internet services offered to other countries or used it as barganing tool.

America is made up of the millions of hard working men and women , but the excessive patriotism is concentrating too much power in the hands of the executives.

Reaching leves such as Saudi and UAE without all the free things that their citizens get because of the oil

A House of Dynamite [2]. Everyone is looking to have more dynamite than the other next room, while living inside the house. All of this happening while the world gets more and more divisive. It's insanity. Are 12,000 nukes safer than zero? [1].

[1] https://conversationswithtyler.com/episodes/annie-jacobsen/ [2] https://www.netflix.com/title/81744537

Since the Trump admin and the director had an exchange of views through the media recently regarding the movie, I wouldn't be surprised if the timing of the announcement was partially motivated by reality show Trump's TV instincts.
I don't think zero is practical. It's more like are 12,000 safer than 30.
AI and technological advancement ahould be the focus rather then nuclear positioning. It is surprising to hear how badly the nuclear assets are managed though, so maybe its some kond of inprovement. They used the password 0000 for the launch coes for like 30 years until the 90's or later, can you imagine. that is a completely horrendous level of security for weapons that will cause the end of the human species on the entire planet. As AI becomes the super focus, hopefully nuclear weapons will less and less of a choice.
No, the “AI” will just be used to trigger the launch. No more passwords, though. Instead, nuclear hallucinations.
theres no going back now .. its constant war at the AI level , yeah, and it makes a lot of mistakes
I wonder if he got confused between Russia testing a nuclear powered missile and people detonating nuclear warheads. Both could be called nuclear testing. It wouldn't surprise me if there was that sort of mix up.