> Want to fiddle with the temperature? Ask Siri to do it. It’s an Apple lover’s dream and a car company’s worst nightmare.
The last thing I want is to have a feature that doesn't work well and that leads to finger-pointing between Apple and the car maker. And considering how lousy Siri is in general, I would expect this feature to not work well.
I’m pissed that Google has sneakily, forcefully won the in-car battle with Android Automotive.
Android users win regardless in this fight - even though they won’t have Android Auto anymore, they can “just” use the built in Google suite on AAOS/Google Automotive and have their native Android apps on the car itself.
Apple loses out end to end in the automotive industry at this point with vendors both ditching Carplay and abandoning Carplay Ultra in their vehicles while praising how great Google in the car is.
I really don’t want to have to have a Google Account in my car (not even a ‘burner’), but it looks like that’s the direction so many are gonna push us, it’s not even funny.
Maybe I'm an outlier here (but I don't think so...) in that CarPlay is an absolute non-negotiable. I don't care (and don't really want...) it to handle climate control, but music, podcasts, weather, messaging, phone, and navigation? Heck yes. The built-in systems are bollocks and 99% of the planet has already committed to Android or Apple for these features in the rest of their outside-the-car life, so the dumbest thing any auto manufacturer could do is push against the tide.
How detached can top management be from Reality? This move would only make sense if you are the top tier car manufacturer and not if you are just a distant third nobody cares about anymore.
I love CarPlay, but I do feel like I'm risking my family's life when it fails to connect and I'm left fiddling with it while driving. It seems like what GM's doing would at least eliminate that risk factor.
>according to GM, the company can create an even better experience for drivers by dropping Apple and making its own software
History has shown that most (especially legacy) car manufacturers make crappy software. I simply don't believe that GM will make exceptional infotainment software and additionally there's no doubt they will charge some subscription fee for parts of the software. It will not be up to the same standard as Tesla or Rivian's software where I can partially accept this argument.
I love CarPlay and my phone already has all the features I need in the car in terms of music, maps, responding to messages, etc. CarPlay is a requirement for me when looking at a car (even rentals).
And here I am, still just using an aux cable and a mount for my phone. I won't buy a car without an aux, nor a phone without a headphone jack. It all just simply works.
CarPlay has its pros and cons. I drive a Mazda and have rented enough GM and Ford vehicles to say that all of their software is consistently terrible. It's like every rectangle on the screen is built by a different team, all of whom hate each other. Different fonts, different modes of interaction, buttons that do nothing, error messages that complain about other parts of the software. So CarPlay is much better than any of those.
But at the same time I don't really use CarPlay for all that much. Music, maps, that's about it. And I also want to use the screen for some features that CarPlay doesn't handle, like checking backup or side cameras. In theory you could do even more, like if I have some engine problem why does it alert me with a few words in a tiny amount of UI in some random spot? It could give me a full explanation of what's going wrong, tell me whether it's in warranty, and offer me to schedule an appointment, right there from the screen in my car.
I haven't driven a Tesla or a Rivian so I don't know how good their software is. But it does seem like there's an opportunity to build some actually-good software here that a generic platform like CarPlay can't really do.
Total clickbait because there are plenty of other manufacturers that still support it: Audi, Honda, Ford, Mercedes, Hyundai, Kia, and their affiliated brands. GM creates mostly shit products, so fuck them. Generally, car manufacturers are continuing to get ever more entitled and shittier like they're following the private equity playbook.
There's a cotton-pickin' gas station on every corner and the cars that use dinosaur juice use CarPlay. It's as clunky as the iPhone but it's familiar. I think Android users "get used to" their hellish screen mess. Besides the fact that all of the automakers are in bed with each other, if I pick a Chevy or a Ford over a GM, I'm not missing anything. And this is only in a rental situation - there's no way I'm pulling into a GM dealership and buying a car. They're a disaster.
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[ 866 ms ] story [ 289 ms ] threadThe last thing I want is to have a feature that doesn't work well and that leads to finger-pointing between Apple and the car maker. And considering how lousy Siri is in general, I would expect this feature to not work well.
Android users win regardless in this fight - even though they won’t have Android Auto anymore, they can “just” use the built in Google suite on AAOS/Google Automotive and have their native Android apps on the car itself.
Apple loses out end to end in the automotive industry at this point with vendors both ditching Carplay and abandoning Carplay Ultra in their vehicles while praising how great Google in the car is.
I really don’t want to have to have a Google Account in my car (not even a ‘burner’), but it looks like that’s the direction so many are gonna push us, it’s not even funny.
GM will ditch Apple CarPlay and Android Auto on all its cars, not just EVs
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45676304
History has shown that most (especially legacy) car manufacturers make crappy software. I simply don't believe that GM will make exceptional infotainment software and additionally there's no doubt they will charge some subscription fee for parts of the software. It will not be up to the same standard as Tesla or Rivian's software where I can partially accept this argument.
I love CarPlay and my phone already has all the features I need in the car in terms of music, maps, responding to messages, etc. CarPlay is a requirement for me when looking at a car (even rentals).
Of course they drop Carplay. Sadly, I expect all the large OEMs to do the same.
But at the same time I don't really use CarPlay for all that much. Music, maps, that's about it. And I also want to use the screen for some features that CarPlay doesn't handle, like checking backup or side cameras. In theory you could do even more, like if I have some engine problem why does it alert me with a few words in a tiny amount of UI in some random spot? It could give me a full explanation of what's going wrong, tell me whether it's in warranty, and offer me to schedule an appointment, right there from the screen in my car.
I haven't driven a Tesla or a Rivian so I don't know how good their software is. But it does seem like there's an opportunity to build some actually-good software here that a generic platform like CarPlay can't really do.
Also, CarPlay Ultra: https://www.macrumors.com/2025/10/09/carplay-ultra-committed...