Western: of or pertaining to the part of the world where the dominant culture is European (most of it colonized)
Patriarchal: of or pertaining to male-dominated society
Narrative: a story we tell ourselves to impart meaning to the world
Technology in itself is not political: the false (see "narrative" above) idea that technology is politically "neutral" and that the mere existence or use of a technology does not in and of itself reinforce domination or oppression
Ironic considering it's a "Western patriarchal narrative" that everything is "political," and every space should be used as a platform to air the political grievances of the day.
It is OK to separate yourself from a group when you deeply disagree with their actions, no matter how insignificant it might seem to a different group of people.
However, I am glad this happened. New Linux Ambassadors will step up and this issue will be buried into the alternative social media communities such as Mastodon, never to be heard of again.
I disagree that Framework will lose a meaningful amount of business over this.
I really hope Framework ignores these people. They are not Linux Ambassadors, they are political activists. These people only care about their ideology and anyone who doesn't blindly follow it gets defamed.
I, and I would imagine many, are tired of this sort of binary thinking. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. Society can't function like this.
Society can't function when people aren't allowed to make their own choices.
Why can't they choose political activism? What on earth binds them to a corporate entity and over-rides their agency?
If you want to step up and be an Ambassador, go for it! But if you think they should be compelled to do so, that's an ideological/political point of view of yours and you need to substantiate it.
What is their ideology? Being political activists? How?
These are two people stepping down from community position because they don't agree with actions/direction of the project. There is nothing bizarre about that. They posted why they don't agree and that's it.
Beyond the disappointment I have in framework for giving my money to someone so clearly off the rails, it's also disappointing to see it wasted on such a poor distribution as well. Omarchy, in isolation, is just a bloated arch install with thrown together scripts, zoom, spotify, and google apps preinstalled. I appreciate that it brought new people into linux but there are countless more polished and creative distributions that would be excellent to see partner with framework instead.
I usually stay afar of those 'too political for tech/gaming' stuff as long as no one is harassed (like Hyprland), but Omarchy is a litter box of a distrib, and doesn't deserve any money. I'd even take Ubuntu over it.
Maybe so but please avoid mini-sermons like this on HN. We're here for curious conversation, not these kinds of grand pronouncements; it's likely far more effective to speak to one another normally, as peers rather than barraging people with rhertoric.
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[ 1.8 ms ] story [ 59.0 ms ] threadCalling people entitled because they left community job they have every right to leave… isn't that a bit entitled? Don't you think?
I have no idea what this was supposed to mean.
Western: of or pertaining to the part of the world where the dominant culture is European (most of it colonized)
Patriarchal: of or pertaining to male-dominated society
Narrative: a story we tell ourselves to impart meaning to the world
Technology in itself is not political: the false (see "narrative" above) idea that technology is politically "neutral" and that the mere existence or use of a technology does not in and of itself reinforce domination or oppression
However, I am glad this happened. New Linux Ambassadors will step up and this issue will be buried into the alternative social media communities such as Mastodon, never to be heard of again.
I disagree that Framework will lose a meaningful amount of business over this.
Too bad. I think the offer to talk is a respectful move. The CEO doesn't seem to be trying to fob them off, unlike Mozilla's recent translator mess.
I, and I would imagine many, are tired of this sort of binary thinking. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. Society can't function like this.
Why can't they choose political activism? What on earth binds them to a corporate entity and over-rides their agency?
If you want to step up and be an Ambassador, go for it! But if you think they should be compelled to do so, that's an ideological/political point of view of yours and you need to substantiate it.
>Why can't they choose political activism? What on earth binds them to a corporate entity and over-rides their agency?
For the same reasons you don't want Christians proselytizing at work, or using a company's platform to talk about their Lord and savior.
These are two people stepping down from community position because they don't agree with actions/direction of the project. There is nothing bizarre about that. They posted why they don't agree and that's it.
Terminally online leftism.
> This is not a “I do not like this distribution” kind of argument.
> This is a “the people you are sending my money to want me and my friends dead or deported” kind of argument.
from: https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-righ...
Beyond the disappointment I have in framework for giving my money to someone so clearly off the rails, it's also disappointing to see it wasted on such a poor distribution as well. Omarchy, in isolation, is just a bloated arch install with thrown together scripts, zoom, spotify, and google apps preinstalled. I appreciate that it brought new people into linux but there are countless more polished and creative distributions that would be excellent to see partner with framework instead.
Don't forget the pre-installed Basecamp and Hey!
2. Everything we do is political, tech is VERY political, stop daydreaming.
A tolerant society cannot tolerate intolerance lest it gets destroyed by it.
Please have a read of the guidelines and try to keep things conversational in future. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html