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Wild times. I guess I'm just at a loss for words—what's going on in this country.
Kind of glad I picked Amtrak to go down and visit family for Thanksgiving

Gonna be rough if the shutdown lasts to the end of November. Shame the usual suspects didn't get the memo about how badly their party was just decimated across the country. Should've been a canary in the coal mine moment

Why is a shutdown even possible? If there’s no agreement just use what was already law before. It makes no sense.

What other country has such a stupid procedure?

Is this the greatness I've been promised?
Anyone figure out yet which 40 airports these are?!? All articles I have seen say 40 airports but don't mention which ones
Even if flights aren't cut, TSA and related staff are. I've heard rumors of 4 hour security lines at IAH.
Has anybody modeled what this does to the overall system?

My impression is the system doesn't have all that much slack to begin with. And then to reduce all the major airports at the same time? And with the (current) expectation that next week will be worse?

Edit: this feels ripe for a simulator type of game. Assume X% of ATC walk off the job every week because they have to pay their bills and can't work ATC for free any longer. Assume Y% of TSA do likewise. Assume FAA increases acceptable fatality risk by Z% weekly. Give little sliders for X, Y, Z. See what conditions are required to let us make it to December 1.

More edit: It would be cool to compare this to natural shutdowns. For example, how does a 10% reduction overall affect traffic as compared to a given Nor'easter or hurricane or bomb cyclone?

More edit: give FAA the power to e.g. shut down airports and rapidly move & re-certify ATC on other airports, like regional triage. Maybe shut down Hobby and Austin and put everyone at IAH. Move to sectors, so there's a single airport operating in Texas and surrounding states, ATL in the southeast, etc. Game out how far in advance FAA needs to make all those calls in order to minimize fatalities. Game out what is the date after which air travel becomes less safe than driving. This could be like Railroad Tycoon, except from the regulator's perspective.

Watching officials describe how the NTSB is working hard to investigate the recent air disaster, knowing that many at NTSB aren't getting paid...
I bet the assholes responsible for shutdown would solve the problem in an instant if they were to start losing money. But they are of course shielded from harm done to the rest of the population.
Maybe they should just cancel all the private jets that fly around and that would probably amount to 10% which would only affect the 1%.
Seems like a win for reducing air pollution
Email every representative available in your state and ask them to please either immediately reopen the government or resign and let in someone who will.
What is stopping them from funding the things they have consensus on piece by piece while they continue debating the rest?
How many ATCs are there anyway? Surely the gov can find money from somewhere to pay them during the shutdown. They had no problem raising $250M to fund a ballroom (shows you how much of a bribe those "contributions" really were).
> The move comes as air traffic controllers have missed their paychecks due to the government shutdown. Air traffic controllers and Transportation Security Administration screeners are among the essential government employees who are required to work during the shutdown.

Slavery never went away, it just shifted.

But at least the Republican goverment is doing something positive to curve climate change. If they shut down enough of the economy and people cannot afford gas anymore that will produce less CO2. Win?

ICE agents still getting paid (with hefty bonuses) but they can’t pay ATCs. Trump priorities.