Ask HN: What are the use cases for NFC outside of payments
Most people center on the payments aspect of NFC but there are so many more. Off the top of my head:
* Payments (replacing credit/debit cards and stored value cards i.e. in a cafeteria)
* Building/security access
* Ticketing (especially plane tickets)
* Transit card support (i.e. Clipper/Oyster/Metrocard)
* Real world interaction with stickers (check into this place on Foursquare, update Facebook, etc)
* Advertising opportunities ("tap here to watch the trailer" on movie posters)
* As MOO just announced, business cards with NFC
Do any of these excite you? Is there anything I missed?
The reason I ask all this is because every time I talk about NFC my peers say that there is no adoption and no use case outside of payments. Obviously the iPhone doesn't have NFC yet but that shouldn't stop it's adoption in the Real World. There is a long list above of valid use cases, why aren't we seeing adoption yet?
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[ 5.6 ms ] story [ 28.1 ms ] thread(I use an iPhone, so this is speculation on my part.)
http://techcrunch.com/2012/07/30/irreducible/
Also, if you don't have the app installed, your phone should launch the Play Store to download and install it automatically.
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That being said, I am really excited for NFC to grow.
Someone should kickstart a project that is a usb NFC phone sync tool. I think HP just announced a computer with a feature similar (the spectre?).
The use case they showed off at the press conference was to save you the hassle of typing your credit card info by just tapping your credit card to the palm rest. It could also be used to login to your computer for instance.
I've also heard of ideas like configuring devices over NFC, e.g. touch a tag with your phone and it will be configured to use local wi-fi network. You can use NFC in similar manner to transfer a link to a website, which I believe would be much more convenient that scanning QR code.
After hacking with it, I have to say it is much more reliable than QR code scanning / barcode scanning. No problems with low light, shaking device etc. Replacing QR codes is probably not a very exciting use case, but I could see it happening.
I'd suggest taking a look at the wikipedia page, it has a list of potential uses.
Adding support for QR codes requires some software (it's out there, and free usually) and a functioning camera with good enough resolution (again, almost omnipresent). NFC brings with it another chipset, another antenna and a chassis designed to have that antenna not mess with the others. If you want to do proper crypto with it, that's a rewiring of how you connect the SIM to your baseband to facilitate NFC-WI - I hope you're getting the picture here.
Geee is right about pairing being the other advantage asides from what I think are gimmicks like "bonking" to check into Foursquare. Realistically there is only a few ways to gain greater adoption: payments actually being deployed en-masse, or the incorporation of NFC chipsets into existing baseband modems.
Considering this is a service for London that number is pretty incredible.
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But years ago TfL tried using NFC - a trial with the Nokia 6131. Ultimately it was rejected as it was too slow at the gates, a genuine concern in stations that see tens to hundreds of thousands move through it at peak times. Even now they still dismiss it as slow, as El Reg points out, despite the fact they don't appear to have actually redone any testing to confirm this.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/01/nfc_tube/print.html
(I imagine this'd be increasingly relevant as the screens on these things get bigger and bigger and it becomes difficult even to remove your phone from your pocket.)
For instance, people can't open X without (1) a key/password, (2) a OTP password, and (3) an NFC device. It seems like a good way to add a proximity factor to authentication.
It doesn't have to replace something; it can also augment them. Especially when it's an automated process, not a manual one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v...
The whole video is really good if you have the time to watch it.
I hardly ever use NFC to interact with anything other than other devices, but I suppose that's because those other things aren't very prominent in the U.S. yet.
Maybe to connect to the WiFi network or checkin on Foursquare in a cafe. In the British Airways lounge the other day I heard a lot of people going up to the desk asking which network it was, etc. This would fix a lot of the problems. Some people were fumbling to work out how to connect on their phone.
Companies like Tagstand allow any company to implement this instantly. I can see loyalty programmes being made using this tech.