As far as I understand, people using this site to contact their elected officials were instrumental in making lawmakers back down from ChatControl v2.0. Hoping the same will be true this time around.
The EU has been taken over by terrorists and law enforcement does nothing. People behind Chat Controls should be arrested.
These proposals are against German laws and other EU countries. It can be treated as terrorist attack attempt.
It creates psychological and physical harm, indiscriminately for ideological gain. Textbook terrorism, except done by nice people in suits and there is no blood (yet).
Legit question: if this disaster of a legislation passes, what are the alternatives to provide secure messaging / comms when you are inside the EU?
The only 2 options that I can think about are:
- The Dark Web: TOR, I2P (<--- not sure why I2P didn't gain more popularity) or potemntially other alternatives in the same space
- VPN outside the EU and access a secure messaging system via the VPN exit point. This would assume that the system would have E2EE / some kind of at least superficial privacy guarantees.
Am I missing any major category / tech combination?
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[ 3.5 ms ] story [ 30.3 ms ] threadAs far as I understand, people using this site to contact their elected officials were instrumental in making lawmakers back down from ChatControl v2.0. Hoping the same will be true this time around.
What if the foss app has the “scanning” but can be disabled with a compile time flag
Is my email client going to have to implement this scanning if I use pgp?
These proposals are against German laws and other EU countries. It can be treated as terrorist attack attempt.
It creates psychological and physical harm, indiscriminately for ideological gain. Textbook terrorism, except done by nice people in suits and there is no blood (yet).
The disguised return of EU Chat Control - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45929511 - Nov 2025 (340 comments)
- The Dark Web: TOR, I2P (<--- not sure why I2P didn't gain more popularity) or potemntially other alternatives in the same space
- VPN outside the EU and access a secure messaging system via the VPN exit point. This would assume that the system would have E2EE / some kind of at least superficial privacy guarantees.
Am I missing any major category / tech combination?