Show HN: On Making Music with the Machine (songxytr.substack.com)

6 points by songeater 6mo ago ↗ HN

Have been making music using ML/AI tools for about as long as I've been on HN. Had a recent comment section on HN here [1] and after that thought it might be worthwhile to write out about the journey in greater detail... from crude LSTM models, to hacking around with Jukebox, and now Suno.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45388822

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kadir1234 6mo ago ↗

"I was bored with my beard so I tugged it. It came off as I feared.” - what does that mean?? is this really music you're making?

gully_boy 6mo ago ↗

>> After a point, I suppose it doesn’t really matter how you make something, what matters is what is made, and how that thing conveys the emotion and the essence.

Somewhat agree with the second half, but disagree with the first. How things are made totally matter... a realistic painting vs a photo, even of the same subject, etc.

4d4m 6mo ago ↗

Man pushes slot machine lever 5,000x and edits together best slot machine sounds to make song. Proceeds to beat chest about being a music maker.

+1 to Suno/genaudio being both fun, and evolving editing tools, but the mental justifications in the blog post are painful. I think you may find musicians bristle at your claim that all art is circular, because they are acutely aware of how sampling, copyright and ip ownership rights work, and legal risks of using recorded material as inputs doesn't fly for commercial music. If these were songs you wrote, youd own the copyright on them. The US legal system says no,you are not making music, its not copywritable due to some of the issues you highlighted in your post.

Further reading: https://help.suno.com/en/articles/2746945

jackofspades 6mo ago ↗

from sister comment, so don't downvote me!

>> After all "songxytr" is pronounced "songshitter."

I was about to post that ahem, you may want to reconsider what you've named your band / project / substack - but I guess that was... considered? ok then...