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> Of course, ICE doesn’t just end up targeting, surveilling, harassing, assaulting, detaining, and torturing people who are undocumented immigrants.

Unfortunate timing of this article going live... Some of that seems quaint now.

ICE should be disbanded and most of its leadership jailed for their crimes.
There have been quips for many years about the dragnets of intelligence services and that "Stasi couldn't even dream about having such vast data" and similar.

But now we aren't talking about intelligence services anymore. ICE truly is Stasi for America, employing tactics such as "isolating them, depriving them of sleep and using psychological tricks such as threatening to arrest relatives." (From Wikipedia about Stasi.)

This year ICE will also become the "armed wing of the Party" thanks to fresh funding.

I don't think Stasi is the most apt comparison, rather the Gestapo, where the "Geheime" did not refer to their existence being secret, rather their standards of operation, chain of command, and general accountability being beyond oversight from the electorate.

Apples and oranges, though, and it's all fruit.

not sure this can be stopped as long as it's legal to record in public
Will they murder more or fewer innocent people with better surveillance data?
Less. More surveillance will mean more opportunities for parallel construction, so they will be able to "justify" more murders.
> ICE is specifically the enforcement arm of the U.S. immigration apparatus.

If you add up the budgets of all the various "police" forces in the US, how much money is spent each year keeping the domestic population in line?

I'm interested, as it seems that lots of groups in the US have their own overlapping police force rather than relying on "the" police. Apart from the total budget, it would be interesting to see a list of all the various police type forces at work in the US.

Remember how people used to say "Why did the vast majority of people, non-Nazis, just go along? Why did nobody do anything about the Nazis?". We're seeing it right now. ICE is now an organization acting with violence outside of its jurisdiction, like the SA were for the Nazis.
Everyone should spend a little time looking at the DHS twitter.
Nobody should spend time on twitter.
It's a question of incentives. From what I've heard: ICE agents are incentivized to the tune of $5000 for every immigrant deported. So they go after the low-hanging fruits: the immigrants coming in for their periodic immigration court hearings, the Home Depot parking lots, etc.

This is why you hear about old grannies being arrested and deported and random immigrant workers with no criminal history being nabbed.

Basically, ICE is a group of bounty hunters and they have no qualms about breaking the law if it leads to a nice payday.

Remember: None of this intrusion would have been necessary if we had simply enforced the border.
Been doin that for a while.

Check out Indeed.com and search for IT gigs in Northern VA or MD or DC, or a couple other federal-ish locations.

Lots of "180k for 6 month contract supporting DHS client deploying next gen cameras"