Gmail is entering the Gemini Era (blog.google)

Boy am I happy that I started moving away from Gmail! Some things still go there, but most emails go to my non-Google, non-AI email.

The one thing I'll want is what we'll never get which is just making it easier to delete e-mails in bulk. And less crap spam filtering. And less sharing my e-mails with third parties.

Given how bad the spam filtering has gotten, the way they give spam notifications from Google Calendar a free pass, the current mess that is "Priority Inbox", I have my doubts they can be trusted to correctly filter my new "AI Inbox" to catch what really matters.

This lets high-stakes items — like a bill due tomorrow or a dentist reminder — rise to the top.

I really hope it hadn't just been trained on US content because their so called decades old capability to have flight reservations appear in Google Calendar and Wallet sourced from GMail has never worked for me.

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Does this really deserve to be on the front page of HN?

I recommend Fastmail. I've been paying customer for 5+ years, parked custom domain and set up forwarding on Gmail. 0 problems except maybe 2 short downtimes that I can think of

> AI-powered spam blocking.

This message is not spam. I repeat, there's no spam in this email.

I am glad I have entered my Proton era two years ago

How does one decline?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Recall with the Google secret sauce

They must have pushed down the inference cost quite a bit to launch this

If you don't want crappy e-mail service, you need to pay monthly for it. If you are not paying for it, you are not the customer.

I'm just so tired of people endlessly complaining about things they have never paid for. Let the ad-model carry those who genuinely cannot afford the services they need, it's revolutionary in that regard. But most of you here have the money, so start paying.

Glad I use thunderbird for my gmail. I'm sure they'll find some way to make my experience worse eventually.

so glad I got off gmail years ago once I saw stories of people's lives being completely cut off due to "suspicious CC activity". Fastmail is the way to go

In the future, you need pay (more) to get a "AI free" plan.

Thank god i started hosting my own mail (and other stuff) like 2 years ago. Everything just seems to get more annoying and less userfriendly.

As the email client i use Thunderbird on Linux and Fairmail on Android. I have really been enjoying the minimal UI of fairmail.

Should someone trust me (a random stranger) more than google, send me an email to grisu@grisu.app or visit my website (grisu.app) for more information. I will give free emails with pretty much no storage limit for as long as i can.

How about asking Gemini how to add dark mode to Gmail?

> Today, 3 billion users rely on Gmail to connect and get things done. AI has been a big part of that

I highly doubt AI had anything to do with that, and it was more to do with the Gmail service being in use for over 2 decades.

These are no-brainer features. The negative reaction here is comical.

We do need a way to move email addresses similar to phone numbers, otherwise we’re stuck with some awful situations in the future.

No mention of "Workspace" and I assume the users of that product will have controls over this. Anyone know what/where they are?

> Crucially, this analysis happens securely with the privacy protections you expect from Google

Lol

Predictable. Absolutely Predictable. [0]

"Don't complain when you are using Gmail and your emails are being trained to develop Gemini."

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45963761

Please give a try to docker mailserver too: https://github.com/docker-mailserver/docker-mailserver

It is quite easy to setup and give you much control, I do it myself:

https://gioorgi.com/2020/mail-server-on-docker

Documentation is very very clear