I assume this is satire, but that aside -- many of my friends who entered into big tech as new grads with "unlimited pto" are indeed very hesitant to take it. They are worried that it'd affect how their managers see them. The same idea with showing up before your manager and leaving after they leave.
"Unlimited" PTO is an oddity that can only exist when you don't have statutory minimums.
https://www.gov.uk/holiday-entitlement-rights "Almost all people classed as workers are legally entitled to 5.6 weeks’ paid holiday a year (known as statutory leave entitlement or annual leave)."
I always knew that "Unlimited PTO" is beneficial to the company rather than its employees. It's the same trick of "we offer [20% lower base salary than market rate] + 2.79% equity" - it sounds like you could break the bank from equity by earning less actual money, but in reality, most of this equity does not worth the bytes it occupies on the servers.
This one I always found super weird, because typically in Europe you just can't carry days over beyond the current year, so that argument for it never really held. Or at least, not many, my current employer lets me roll over 5 but they have to be used by 1st March.
In the UK we're typically by law entitled to 25 days inc. bank (i.e. public) holidays, but most 'professional' jobs will give you at least 25 days plus bank holidays giving a total of ~33ish days per year of leave. When one of the bank holidays would fall on a weekend (e.g. Christmas Day) then it's transferred to the Monday following. Very very occasionally, there are additional bank holidays added e.g. for the Royal Wedding in 2011 one was created.
Often companies will give you a few more days after a number of years of service e.g. an additional 4 days after 5 years. Public sector jobs are usually more generous again e.g. 32 days + bank holidays plus some 'closure' days meaning ~42ish days of leave.
If an employer is going to advertise unlimited PTO, I surely will take a week off every quarter in the US, plus any necessary sick time. Not using PTO doesn't make sense.
"Unlimited" PTO, from an employee's perspective, is an obvious trap that borders on a scam. Everyone knows that, practically speaking, there can't really be unlimited PTO. When a company says it has unlimited PTO, what it's really saying is "we won't tell you the limit". That makes taking PTO a fearful thing, which is probably the whole idea.
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[ 2.6 ms ] story [ 28.1 ms ] threadhttps://www.gov.uk/holiday-entitlement-rights "Almost all people classed as workers are legally entitled to 5.6 weeks’ paid holiday a year (known as statutory leave entitlement or annual leave)."
> It is tracked.
> I have a dashboard.
> I don't share the dashboard.
Classic.
It's not company policy. I don't take time off.
It's not law, which says 7 days per year is legal.
I just do what I want. Like not showing up saying I'm sick or "working" from home for a week.
Or doing my stuff on my laptop at the office.
If manager asks about something I say I'm working on it.
But no one asks. They don't want to be cause of a good employee quitting.
I set conservative estimates and I do literal minimum to technically reach them.
Everybody loves this system. No one can tell I'm slacking and I'm more chill as a person.
In the UK we're typically by law entitled to 25 days inc. bank (i.e. public) holidays, but most 'professional' jobs will give you at least 25 days plus bank holidays giving a total of ~33ish days per year of leave. When one of the bank holidays would fall on a weekend (e.g. Christmas Day) then it's transferred to the Monday following. Very very occasionally, there are additional bank holidays added e.g. for the Royal Wedding in 2011 one was created.
Often companies will give you a few more days after a number of years of service e.g. an additional 4 days after 5 years. Public sector jobs are usually more generous again e.g. 32 days + bank holidays plus some 'closure' days meaning ~42ish days of leave.
If it has to be approved by a manager, it's not unlimited.