I think my stance for AI definitely somewhere between these two options. A sentiment I often see is being staunchly anti-AI in any way, and I'm definitely not that. I feel like that is the more useful divide too, anti-AI vs open to AI. Being open to AI doesn't mean being one of those 'full steam ahead' on anything and everything AI though.
Can someone clarify this strong position against AI? That it be completely without AI? AI is a great option, but sucks as your only option. I think this true in reverse as well.
I'm sure we will see lots of hand-wringing here on Ycombinator about the results, which will completely miss the point of how many people in the real world are sick of how overhyped AI is and the negative impacts that hype is having. The tech industry's obsession with AI is souring a lot of people on it because adoption/promotion isn't happening organically.
I don't know if I can really trust the data. 93% of 40k+ votes are NO AI. How is that possible. I am not sure if I would like to go back to time when I couldn't code or when I had to do all the labourious work of writing test cases on my own. Now, my time is free to build more 0 to 1 ideas, faster and more effectively.
I use AI (LLMs) all the time, but I use it very intentionally. I don't reach to it for everything.
A while ago I was paying for both Kagi Ultimate and Perplexity Premium to see which one fit my needs better. I ended up dropping my Perplexity subscription in favor of Kagi Ultimate, because Perplexity often lead me down rabbitholes of trying to beat the LLM into submission, where dropping to a simple keyword search would short circuit such loops.
Sometimes LLM assisted search helps me get to the information I want faster. It can be nice to be able to provide lots of context to narrow down your query to specifically what you need, in ways that do not work with keyword searches.
Sometimes keyword searches get me to the information I want faster, especially when I know there are specific resources where I'll find the information I want, such as looking at the documentation for a specific version of something, or some any kind of information that decays over time.
Ah yes, the next layer in questioning the human technology department. I'd like to speak to the manager of technology. We have some other important questions that you haven't answered;
I feel like discussiong ai with people who hated the seat belt, enjoyed smoking inside, giving babies alcohol and doing operations on babies because they couldn't feel pain.
So many more people have clear stances against AI but the energy consumption of bitcoin was seldomly a hotly debated topic.
Lets be clear, technology advances. You can embrace it and learn it and use it, or you lose.
For me most shocking thing is: I wouldn't have expected so many people getting AI wrong or not getting it at all. 20 Years of software engineering and i have never experienced a technology so weird and crazy and with such a fast progress than AI/ML/Neural Networks.
Is it perfect? No. But if you would have asked ANYONE just a few years back "Hey i give you a 100 Million dollars, you will write some software however you like and I expect it to be able to solve any problem (an easy one for the start) but i will not tell you what it will be" we would have build something like IBM Watson and it would have just failed.
but we have a breakthrough in neural networks progress. I can ask it in german, in english, in shitty english and shitty german. I can generate any picture i want, i can generate videos.
This technology bridges computer and human. Its the FIRST TIME EVER I could build something like a Star Trek Computer.
Just think this 5 or 20 years further and its clear that these models will be better, relevant better than today. You will (if still needed) be able to stand in a VR world and talk to a computer and it will understand you well enough and it will be able to generate what ever you want.
Of course we still need to solve a lot more issues but honestly, before ChatGPT it felt like we solved software but it was not clear how it will continue. There was something missing.
And the way we build out compute, can be a milestone for material science, pharma, biochemistry etc.
Edit: I was pleasantly surprised to see that they don't add any tracking cookies from what I can tell, regardless of how you "vote". Still feels rather tasteless.
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[ 3.6 ms ] story [ 41.0 ms ] threadI would hope we can engage these questions with a little subtlety, rather than just "picking a team."
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A while ago I was paying for both Kagi Ultimate and Perplexity Premium to see which one fit my needs better. I ended up dropping my Perplexity subscription in favor of Kagi Ultimate, because Perplexity often lead me down rabbitholes of trying to beat the LLM into submission, where dropping to a simple keyword search would short circuit such loops.
Sometimes LLM assisted search helps me get to the information I want faster. It can be nice to be able to provide lots of context to narrow down your query to specifically what you need, in ways that do not work with keyword searches.
Sometimes keyword searches get me to the information I want faster, especially when I know there are specific resources where I'll find the information I want, such as looking at the documentation for a specific version of something, or some any kind of information that decays over time.
"Are you yes or no on Internet?"
"Are you yes or no on electricity?"
"Are you yes or no on fire?"
Almost as good as a link to the relevant CXDC comic:
https://characterdatabase.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_Offic...
So many more people have clear stances against AI but the energy consumption of bitcoin was seldomly a hotly debated topic.
Lets be clear, technology advances. You can embrace it and learn it and use it, or you lose.
For me most shocking thing is: I wouldn't have expected so many people getting AI wrong or not getting it at all. 20 Years of software engineering and i have never experienced a technology so weird and crazy and with such a fast progress than AI/ML/Neural Networks.
Is it perfect? No. But if you would have asked ANYONE just a few years back "Hey i give you a 100 Million dollars, you will write some software however you like and I expect it to be able to solve any problem (an easy one for the start) but i will not tell you what it will be" we would have build something like IBM Watson and it would have just failed.
but we have a breakthrough in neural networks progress. I can ask it in german, in english, in shitty english and shitty german. I can generate any picture i want, i can generate videos.
This technology bridges computer and human. Its the FIRST TIME EVER I could build something like a Star Trek Computer.
Just think this 5 or 20 years further and its clear that these models will be better, relevant better than today. You will (if still needed) be able to stand in a VR world and talk to a computer and it will understand you well enough and it will be able to generate what ever you want.
Of course we still need to solve a lot more issues but honestly, before ChatGPT it felt like we solved software but it was not clear how it will continue. There was something missing.
And the way we build out compute, can be a milestone for material science, pharma, biochemistry etc.
"No AI" come on
Give me a frickin break. Absolute trash.
Edit: I was pleasantly surprised to see that they don't add any tracking cookies from what I can tell, regardless of how you "vote". Still feels rather tasteless.