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password54321
Why is the focus on Minneapolis? Is it really the training ground for ICE?

Edit: "Minnesota has the largest Somali population in the US, according to NBC. The community has been subject to widespread criticism from Mr Trump, who has called them "garbage"."

arunabha
I looked at the video and have no words. Why, just why?
int_19h
Is it the first video of American law enforcement shooting someone that triggered this reaction?

This is from 8 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBUUx0jUKxc.

Extreme violence has been normalized among American LEOs for a long time now.

Look up "killology" for some more on this. If you're in US, check if your local PD or sheriff's office signed up its agents for a Dave Grossman seminar or training course; you might be unpleasantly surprised.

And now that ICE job ads are essentially an open invitation to come be violent for a "righteous cause", it's exactly those types of people that end up there in even larger concentrations. But make no mistake, none of this is new in any way other than the sheer scale of it.

perihelions
That's a summary execution in broad daylight. I have no words.
arunabha
@dang Why is this flagged and removed from the front page in seconds.
rich_sasha
IANAA: what legal powers does the city/state have to expel ICE agents? Especially as they are operating in, at best, increasingly shady legality.

I always understood that the USA is built on a delicate balance of power between the federal and state governments. But here the federal government is sending thugs who, masked or unmasked, are brazenly killing people in bizzare circumstances. And the best the state can do is PTFO?

dragontamer
Sounds like ICE's official word right now is that the guy had a gun.

But the video clearly indicates that they all tackled him to the ground and were wrestling him maybe 4 vs 1, before they all shot him together. I'm not quite sure how a gun can have come out of this. Maybe the guy while struggling on the ground happened to reach in the direction of someone's gun while getting curbstomped, I dunno.

What I'm most worried about is that Pam Bondi / Department of Justice refuses to investigate these or properly prosecute these cases. IE: The Renee Good case has a ton of FBI agents resigning because they've been told to focus on Good's "misbehavior" rather than the ICE Agent's aggression.

It will be up to the Minnesota police and justice system to investigate. We cannot expect anything from the DoJ/FBI here. As such, the prosecution case will be gimped, and I fear we will have nothing resembling justice in this case (or Renee Good's case either).

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polotics
Well it looks like it's time to say bye-bye to the 2nd amendment right to keep and bear arms in the US, right? NRA and all that notwithstanding it seems if you're bearing arms you will be shot. Interesting times.
camillomiller
From a purely theoretical standpoint, what should the family victims do then, in a country where rule of law is not being applied anymore? If these deaths will go unpunished - and Alex Pretti's is already well documented and clear EXECUTION - what are the direct consequence as a society with a 2nd amendment?
2OEH8eoCRo0
So if you exercise your second amendment right and ICE goons harass you they'll freak out that you're "armed" and execute you.
softwaredoug
This is probably a good day to take time away from social media. Doom scrolling won’t do anything

Instead there’s DHS funding going through Congress which could give Congress leverage to restrict ICE. To be clear ICE will still operate past the funding deadline. But Congress can create limits like mandating allowing states to investigate these crimes. Restrict who can carry firearms.

Write your senators and ask them to block DHS funding

mraniki
Alternative angle from the lady in pink

NSFW

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/1qlux63/altern...

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https://imgur.com/a/UTDrKz0

jimt1234
I hate to say it, but once again, Trump wins. All of my MAGA family is talking about what's going on in Minneapolis, with pretty predictable reactions. But guess what they're not talking about: Jeffrey Epstein - that's old news, time to move on, Dems are the only ones bringing it up, etc.
praptak
You can never tell the breaking point of fascism but this certainly looks like it. I'm happy I don't work for a US company because I no longer think it's ethical to do so.
slg
For how long can we keep ignoring this?
Handy-Man
Just say it as it is, they executed a US citizen.
noobermin
Regarding just the headline, at this point it's not really about immigration, this has evolved into a soft civil conflict being waged for political reasons. The two people who have been killed so far were themselves citizens and at best were political dissidents. They were not themselves subject to detainment due to immigration status.
saubeidl
First they came for the illegal immigrants and I did not speak out, because I was not an illegal immigrant.

Then they came for the legal immigrants they didn't like and I did not speak out, because I was not a legal immigrant.

Then they came for their political enemies and I did not speak up, because I was not their political enemy.

Then they came for me, and there was nobody left to speak out for me.

praptak
You can never tell the breaking point of fascism but this certainly looks like it. I'm happy I don't work for a US company because I no longer think it's ethical to do so.