Great. Also need Amazon and Microsoft to cut ties. Not just with ICE but the administration as a whole. Unfortunately this is also a time when employees have low leverage given all the layoffs. Better to fight for a union first.
They forgot the “don’t be evil” era ended a long time ago.
I applaud the initiative but it’s naive to think this’ll change anything. And when push comes to shove these people wont quit their comfy job in this economic climate.
Being that ICE has also been kidnapping some US citizens, this is par for the course. Beyond ICE, Google however needs to go further and also cut ties with Palantir which otherwise will become stronger by continuing to serve as a proxy cloud for ICE.
It seems like a new version of this story, "[Big tech] workers protest their employer taking [federal agency] contracts" shows up at least once a year. I guess the steel man of this is that people think they can take jobs at these corps and push reform from within, but this seems powerfully naive to me. Fact of the matter is that a large portion of the compensation these companies provide is for buying off your better judgement. You're taking a deal with the devil when you sign on. There are a lot of better, smaller, companies you could be working for, but you chose the evil ones because it pays better.
The naïveté of workers in tech is astounding. Workers at Google have been complicit in the unravelling of the social fabric of the US since before Eric Schmidt. I only point to the destitution of the fourth estate by search advertising as the most egregious example.
Yes, the technical problems are interesting, the pay is good, but what society are you building?
The fifth estate is now, also, all but extinguished. Machine-driven psyops, in the form of algorithmic engagement, and AI-generated sentiment, mean that social fabric is no longer woven by people, but synthesized by corporations in service of their paperclip-maxxing agendas.
The recent case of Rob Pike, and today’s post by Brenden Gregg, only serve to remind me that the only thing one can depend on is the human mind to delude itself.
What else can explain the flagging of this submission? Google is the tech company of the internet age. That these goings on within it are worthy of being brushed aside by some members of this forum is indicative of a deep malaise in this community, an inability to see reality as it is.
I should end by saying, in my view, the only appropriate employee activism is handing in your resignation. Tech can’t unionize, as the workers don’t see themselves as equals, as disposable cogs in the service of corporations.
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I applaud the initiative but it’s naive to think this’ll change anything. And when push comes to shove these people wont quit their comfy job in this economic climate.
Yes, the technical problems are interesting, the pay is good, but what society are you building?
The fifth estate is now, also, all but extinguished. Machine-driven psyops, in the form of algorithmic engagement, and AI-generated sentiment, mean that social fabric is no longer woven by people, but synthesized by corporations in service of their paperclip-maxxing agendas.
The recent case of Rob Pike, and today’s post by Brenden Gregg, only serve to remind me that the only thing one can depend on is the human mind to delude itself.
What else can explain the flagging of this submission? Google is the tech company of the internet age. That these goings on within it are worthy of being brushed aside by some members of this forum is indicative of a deep malaise in this community, an inability to see reality as it is.
I should end by saying, in my view, the only appropriate employee activism is handing in your resignation. Tech can’t unionize, as the workers don’t see themselves as equals, as disposable cogs in the service of corporations.
Good luck, everyone.
Ffs HN. It's awful sad watching the site be killed like this.