Jmail maintainer and co-creator here. Very excited to see that someone finally made Jemini good!
Our development process has been interesting. Although just Riley and I first made Jmail, it's been really gratifying to see companies, journalists, and fellow developers like Diego rise to the occasion to make this entire suite of apps as high quality and extensive as possible.
You guys are doing awesome stuff. I was in the process of loading all of the documents into a vector database to query and then you dropped Jemini.
I wanted to reach out and avoid duplication of efforts, but I didn't know the best person to reach out to for this or if this is anything that can be collaborated on.
Is it possible to make jmail open source? Would love to contribute! e.g., the search functionality is quite poor with little filtering available. Jtube doesn't let you sort by views etc etc
Great! This, along with Webb, the other Epstein AI tool, are amazing effort to find documents. The way you link to files instead of just outputing an answer is amazing. Great works!
The Jamazon interface is really nice. I like how clicking on the order number takes you to the email. But I'm not going spend much time on there, after seeing his order for Lolita next to orders for kid toys.
Interesting stuff! I'm also slowly diving into the whole Epstein thing, mainly focused on a human-curated wiki (at https://corroborators.wiki, still WIP obviously) and I've had some contributors wanting to use AI for basically filling out details automatically. But I'm using LLMs daily for programming, so I know how much they get wrong.
So about that specific thing, how do you avoid this particular problems with LLMs getting basic things wrong and basically being a lottery if the answer is correct or not? It's the reason I've avoided (and encouraged others to avoid it to) using LLMs too heavily in the process of reading, understanding and summarizing documents, but clearly you've must have figured out some trick to this?
Yea every other use case beyond feeding the hysterical Epstein conspiracy machine has been totally worthless. All the consumers and companies paying real money for this tech must just be stupid.
On the other hand, providing more fuel for sweaty basement dwellers to invent fake stories about elite lizard people while trashing the civil liberties of thousands of random innocents contacted by this dude? I can think of no better use case.
Why on earth does he have CPAP pipes, an oxygen concentrator, and a pulse oximeter? This is dated 2019 so I assume he was having sleep apnea, but in my nightmares I assume he's keeping someone in a coma.
What a crazy subthread. You identified an obvious normal reason for him to have those things and then invented another reason, and then people agreed with you.
When LLMs first came out, my initial impulse, though I didn't pursue it, was that the summarization function was ideal for sorting through FOIA requests. So glad to see stuff like this come to fruition.
I wonder if we can trust Gemini to do its job well here? Whoever is being protected in those files obviously has the power to compel governments to do what they want - if Gemini started being a threat, I bet it would get some "alignment" help. Certainly its findings would be reported, as well as the identity of whoever was doing the prompting
> The search failed because there was an internal server error (status 500) when trying to access the document search tool. The web search also did not return any usable results.
Brilliant. This is like the internet at its peak (to me) where it was all about building neat things and helping people. Just a bunch of engineers saying they are not planning to look away from the Epstein files. More projects like this, please.
Finally, this is a great use-case of vibe-coding: making hard to parse data accessible and understandable for the public. Though it's unfortunate it appears not to be open-source.
Question: Does Blues Traveler appear in the Epstein files?
Blues Traveler
Answer:
Yes, "Blues Traveler" appears in the files, but not in a way that directly connects the band to Jeffrey Epstein or his activities.
Key Findings:
XM Radio Mention: An email from "XM Signal" dated July 8, 2008, mentions a "Starbucks XM Café Live with Blues Traveler" event. [1] This appears to be a reference to a broadcast or performance by the band on XM Satellite Radio.
Analysis:
The searches did not reveal any direct involvement of the band "Blues Traveler" with Jeffrey Epstein or his associates. The mention found is in the context of a radio event.
It's important to distinguish this from the multiple mentions of "Blue Water Café," which is a restaurant and appears in several travel itineraries. [2][3][4]
Further Investigation:
If you have a specific reason to believe "Blues Traveler" might be connected, please provide more details. For instance, was there a particular event, person, or date you had in mind? This could help refine the search.
I don't know how much more cynicism I can achieve, but now I can access the data I need to build it up at super human speed! I'm thinking I'll surpass last-days George Carlin by Midsummer Eve.
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[ 3.6 ms ] story [ 65.8 ms ] threadOur development process has been interesting. Although just Riley and I first made Jmail, it's been really gratifying to see companies, journalists, and fellow developers like Diego rise to the occasion to make this entire suite of apps as high quality and extensive as possible.
I wanted to reach out and avoid duplication of efforts, but I didn't know the best person to reach out to for this or if this is anything that can be collaborated on.
Are you planning to add date-sorted messages and deduplication/thread view at any point?
I would love to help out, if needed.
https://jmail.world/jamazon
If you like interesting ecom UIs, shamelessly plugging my Show HN from today: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47041288
So about that specific thing, how do you avoid this particular problems with LLMs getting basic things wrong and basically being a lottery if the answer is correct or not? It's the reason I've avoided (and encouraged others to avoid it to) using LLMs too heavily in the process of reading, understanding and summarizing documents, but clearly you've must have figured out some trick to this?
On the other hand, providing more fuel for sweaty basement dwellers to invent fake stories about elite lizard people while trashing the civil liberties of thousands of random innocents contacted by this dude? I can think of no better use case.
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> The search failed because there was an internal server error (status 500) when trying to access the document search tool. The web search also did not return any usable results.
Question: Does Blues Traveler appear in the Epstein files? Blues Traveler
Answer: Yes, "Blues Traveler" appears in the files, but not in a way that directly connects the band to Jeffrey Epstein or his activities.
Key Findings:
XM Radio Mention: An email from "XM Signal" dated July 8, 2008, mentions a "Starbucks XM Café Live with Blues Traveler" event. [1] This appears to be a reference to a broadcast or performance by the band on XM Satellite Radio. Analysis:
The searches did not reveal any direct involvement of the band "Blues Traveler" with Jeffrey Epstein or his associates. The mention found is in the context of a radio event.
It's important to distinguish this from the multiple mentions of "Blue Water Café," which is a restaurant and appears in several travel itineraries. [2][3][4]
Further Investigation:
If you have a specific reason to believe "Blues Traveler" might be connected, please provide more details. For instance, was there a particular event, person, or date you had in mind? This could help refine the search.
but the other people cc'ed in the particular emails i found do pop up though. weird.