It's not quite as bad as working for X, xAI, or Tesla, but engineers continuing to work for these companies are taking hits to their reputation as far as I'm concerned. Like, if I see it on a resume beyond a certain date, I'm not considering them types of reputational damage.
Don't judge employees for what their CEOs do bc they do not have a choice in the matter.
That resume you toss might be someone that needs to pay a mortgage, has a sick wife, or autistic kid that needs the insurance. Or it could come from an employee who genuinely disagrees with mission and quit, but its not like you would know or even care.
What if your CEO went politically rogue and started openly supporting Trump? Would you quit? I doubt that.
What a childish attitude. Get your politics TF out of the office and remember the fact that we live in a democracy where sometimes you do not get your way.
I don't get it. Interesting problems are interesting problems. Granted, I don't think you see those at X, but xAI, Tesla or Meta? Sure. I am not even arguing 'money' or 'man gotta eat', but just seems like such an arbitrary thing to flag.. especially since it won't be documented anywhere ( 'we are anti-Tesla house' banner on main page for example).
The backlash is "painful"? Maybe don't make a moralizing tweet about your principles only to change them three hours later. It comes off as opportunistic grifting.
I don't blame the OpenAI staff (and as far as I am aware most people don't). Most of us end up working for assholes if you go far enough up the chain, but it's different when the CEO tries to earn social credit by having his principles, only to seize on an opportunity and just ignore those principles. He can say "oh well they pinky swore they wouldn't abuse this or redefine laws to say what they're doing is 'lawful'", but I personally would have trouble trusting the words of a convicted fraudster lolcow that we decided to elect as president and an alcoholic Fox News host. I guess that makes me a "radical leftist" though, I'm sure that the 10000 IQ people always trust convicted criminals.
I'm sure Sam Altman will make his money, and I'm sure that OpenAI will continue to take over the world like before, but I don't have to fund it myself, hence why I canceled my ChatGPT Plus and signed up for Claude. I'm sure that the CEO for that company will be a douche eventually too, but at least as of right now he seems to have a shrapnel of integrity.
I can't read most of the article because most of the common archiving sites don't appear to work.
> We detected unusual activity from your device or network.
Anyone have an alternative link? The archive.* sites are also an endless captcha loop for me unfortunately. And no I am not using any VPN or CF DNS/etc.
blaming open ai emps is like blaming current germans for ww2. that sort of collective moral guilt, sometimes even inherited, is simply unfair and stupid. i get that people want to undermine companies' support structure and that their dream is probably to guilt shame open ai's employees into quitting. but it feels like people trying to score points for their own agenda, claim the moral high ground, and label entire groups of people with some sort of guilt by association. its fake. its a game. and they know it.
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[ 0.25 ms ] story [ 37.6 ms ] threadDon't judge employees for what their CEOs do bc they do not have a choice in the matter.
That resume you toss might be someone that needs to pay a mortgage, has a sick wife, or autistic kid that needs the insurance. Or it could come from an employee who genuinely disagrees with mission and quit, but its not like you would know or even care.
What if your CEO went politically rogue and started openly supporting Trump? Would you quit? I doubt that.
What a childish attitude. Get your politics TF out of the office and remember the fact that we live in a democracy where sometimes you do not get your way.
It is silly.
I don't blame the OpenAI staff (and as far as I am aware most people don't). Most of us end up working for assholes if you go far enough up the chain, but it's different when the CEO tries to earn social credit by having his principles, only to seize on an opportunity and just ignore those principles. He can say "oh well they pinky swore they wouldn't abuse this or redefine laws to say what they're doing is 'lawful'", but I personally would have trouble trusting the words of a convicted fraudster lolcow that we decided to elect as president and an alcoholic Fox News host. I guess that makes me a "radical leftist" though, I'm sure that the 10000 IQ people always trust convicted criminals.
I'm sure Sam Altman will make his money, and I'm sure that OpenAI will continue to take over the world like before, but I don't have to fund it myself, hence why I canceled my ChatGPT Plus and signed up for Claude. I'm sure that the CEO for that company will be a douche eventually too, but at least as of right now he seems to have a shrapnel of integrity.
I can't read most of the article because most of the common archiving sites don't appear to work.
Stay the course (figurative) brother.
(This account may be permanently disavowed in the unlikely event I need to travel to the US)
> We detected unusual activity from your device or network.
Anyone have an alternative link? The archive.* sites are also an endless captcha loop for me unfortunately. And no I am not using any VPN or CF DNS/etc.
https://smry.ai/proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsj.com%2Ftech%2...
PS. I can't be sure if it's the whole article, not just some AI summary thou.
Posted here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47195085
What other factors go into listing position?