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bena
You're a fucking text editor. You edit text. You do not need to know how old I am to edit text.
bigyabai 

  Subject to these Terms, Zed will permit Customer to access and use Zed’s AI-enabled software-as-a-service offering (the “Service”), which enables certain additional features and functionality (including artificial intelligence and collaboration features) in Zed’s open source code editing software (“Software”).
xxpor
The headline is tricky: identification != verification
jrm4
I installed this one day to try it out and can't remember why I stopped, but apparently now I must hunt it down and destroy every trace of it from my machine, so thanks for the update.
bradreaves2
Where does it say that it will require age verification?

The link you sent basically says "you pinky-promise that you're 18."

Later in the doc it also says "you promise not to send malware."

0xdade
Tons of services have terms of service that include a minimum age requirement. That doesn't mean they are _verifying_ those ages. Just that if you are not the minimum age, then you're in breach of the service terms and can be terminated.

YCombinator requires users to be at least 13 years of age. Does that mean HN is going to require age identification? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

steeve
Misleading title. It's about using their AI service, not the editor.
doug-moen
Zed already had terms of use that forbid "reverse engineering" (ie looking at the GPL source code).

Gram is a hard fork that removes the TOS, telemetry and AI, and turns Zed into just a text editor.

https://gram.liten.app/posts/first-release/

panzi
Definitely worth a look!
sshine
Vim already has age enforcement:

You’ll grow old before you manage to exit!

rtcode_io
Zed is gone! Can't let a text buffer humiliate us.
praseodym
They sent out an email to clarify that there will be no age verification and that the '18 or older' rule was introduced to avoid that:

> You must be at least 18 years old to use the Service (Zed’s AI-enabled software-as-a-service offering, including features like account creation/sign in, Zed Free and Zed Pro, and collaboration). See https://zed.dev/terms#21-eligibility. We set the threshold at 18 due to children's data privacy obligations under COPPA, equivalent international frameworks, and an increasing number of state and regional laws that extend protections to anyone under 18. Those regulations require parental consent verification, age-gated data handling, and separate retention policies for minors. Building and maintaining that infrastructure is a real cost for a small team, and getting it wrong carries regulatory risk. Setting the line at 18 lets us maintain a single privacy framework for all account holders without carve-outs.