I'm one of the people that canceled my OpenAI Plus subscription after Sam Altman demonstrated his lack of integrity last week.
I like to think I'm doing something, but honestly I am not sure that it would make a difference if literally every consumer canceled their subscription at this point. They now have an "in" with the slush fund that we call "US military contracting", which is probably worth more than what they were going to make from all the people who canceled their accounts. Not to mention their bribes to our president, meaning that the markets can always be rigged in their favor.
I canceled before this, but I definitely can’t see myself renewing chatgpt because of this and so much other shadiness.
I just don’t want them to succeed anymore, and I don’t think there’s really any world where they regain my trust.
And to be clear I don’t expect my actions do make a difference, I just would feel dirty now that they have gotten into bed with this administration. Plus I should probably assume I’d have zero privacy now too…
Unless ~800k users cancel it is still a net positive for them and that is with the current relatively small contract they have. The reality is that money is in B2B.
I regret ever having signed up. But not only because of this. Also because they just don't clearly say that they don't analyze, read or even use my prompts - it just freaks me out that some derived or "anonymized" version of my prompt is saved or even used for training other models.
No offense meant, but unfortunately tone cannot be given well via text: What did you think was happening there? The concerns you have expressed seem like they were clearly happening for all users, no matter what, from the beginning.
Hegseth declared quite unofficially (on X) that any company that does business with the US military must cease all business interactions with Anthropic. If that actually becomes an official thing, that will be worth billions lost to Anthropic, whereas a ChatGPT boycott by a few million people (who probably weren't using it that much anyway) is mostly a drop in the bucket.
The only thing that will save OpenAI is a miracle. The deals only prolong the pain. Just end it already. Nobody wants their products. We want affordable RAM and SSD.
i mean, if Chinese AI companies are constantly distilling the latest anthropic models, and those companies are closely tied to the CCP/PLA, aren't anthropic models already being used for military purposes?
Should have done it earlier [0] when no-one cared and the signs were all there.
Anyway this boycott is going to fail. Why? Because Claude was used for not only the Venezuela operation [1] but also the one in Iran [2].
Remember Anthropic never objected to military use in foreign operations, but only domestic. So if the government never made that request to Anthropic, there wouldn't be any outrage, and military use would continue with the (illegal) war in Iran still using Anthropic as a vendor.
So no different to how P̶a̶l̶a̶n̶t̶i̶r̶ Anthropic is already used in the middle east.
I'm confused.
Sam writes "Two of our most important safety principles are prohibitions on domestic mass surveillance and human responsibility for the use of force, including for autonomous weapon systems. The DoW agrees with these principles, reflects them in law and policy, and we put them into our agreement."
How is this different from what Anthropic wanted?
Yeah but OpenAI's market share is down to 45% from 69% a year ago, they are #4 on LLM Arena behind Claude, Gemini and Grok, they are heavily loss making and winning may depend on having the best researchers who are likely put off.
> more than 1.5 million people have taken action, either by cancelling subscriptions, sharing boycott messages on social media, or signing up via quitgpt.org
That's just silly compared to their user base and wont have any effect
Genuine question - what’s wrong with military leveraging modern technologies? They have been doing it for ages. And thanks to this process for example we have now internet.
Or what’s inherently wrong with catering to military customer?
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[ 4.8 ms ] story [ 60.1 ms ] threadI like to think I'm doing something, but honestly I am not sure that it would make a difference if literally every consumer canceled their subscription at this point. They now have an "in" with the slush fund that we call "US military contracting", which is probably worth more than what they were going to make from all the people who canceled their accounts. Not to mention their bribes to our president, meaning that the markets can always be rigged in their favor.
I just don’t want them to succeed anymore, and I don’t think there’s really any world where they regain my trust.
And to be clear I don’t expect my actions do make a difference, I just would feel dirty now that they have gotten into bed with this administration. Plus I should probably assume I’d have zero privacy now too…
Anyway this boycott is going to fail. Why? Because Claude was used for not only the Venezuela operation [1] but also the one in Iran [2].
Remember Anthropic never objected to military use in foreign operations, but only domestic. So if the government never made that request to Anthropic, there wouldn't be any outrage, and military use would continue with the (illegal) war in Iran still using Anthropic as a vendor.
So no different to how P̶a̶l̶a̶n̶t̶i̶r̶ Anthropic is already used in the middle east.
[0] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jun/17/openai-mi...
[1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/feb/14/us-milita...
[2] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/anthropic-claude-ai-iran-war-u-...
How do I cancel my ChatGPT subscription?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47190997
OpenAI – How to delete your account
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47193478
ChatGPT has 900 million users now, across continents and they don't care about this DoW deal.
That's just silly compared to their user base and wont have any effect
Or what’s inherently wrong with catering to military customer?
What’s going on here?
What is wrong, however, is that the retaliatory move to label Anthropic as a supply chain risk is not ok. Further, the timing of it all stinks.
Everyone smells a rat, not just me. Ever heard of “ask the audience”? The crowd is right a HUGE majority of the time.
Even if that's the case, how do you know it's right this particular time?
Also, one can say, crowd huge majority of time makes mediocre decisions at best. Or: crowd can be easily manipulated with intentional propaganda.
We can do all sorts of generalizations that would be generally true. But I got your point, thank you.