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Recent SCOTUS refusal to hear appeal could mean that clean room implementations may not be license-able at all.

If Ai produced content cannot be copyrighted, can it be licensed?

Short answer: yes because it's in the public domain now.

Long answer: well it depends on how much human creative input was required.

The legal intricacies of this are of course interesting and relevant.

But what are the social ramifications if this kind of thing is deemed acceptable? It feels like it would effectively be the end of OSS licensing, because it's pretty straightforward to do this for any project.

Any company that wanted a proprietary copy of a program could in theory follow this same technique, with relative ease. That feels wrong.

So maybe we need to re-think the "copyrightable API" and "clean room" legal concepts. How? I don't know. But a world in which OSS licenses are easily sidestepped feels like the wrong direction.

Is everyone here just ignoring the fact that the 12 year maintainer of this project performed the re-write? Companies cannot do this with relative ease unless they hire these OSS maintainers
How is it considered clean room implementation when the model was near certainty trained on the original code base?
no. A clean room implementation requires the programmer to have never seen the original source code. This is never the case with llms
> I then started in an empty repository with no access to the old source tree, and explicitly instructed Claude not to base anything on LGPL/GPL-licensed code

Is this the same AI that I see most days get instructions to "not do anything destructive without explicit permission" and then go on and delete production systems?

There is reasonable doubt that it actually limits itself based upon requests.