MiniMax M2.5 is trained by Claude Opus 4.6?

12 points by Orellius ↗ HN
I was chatting with MiniMax M2.5 in OpenRouter and suddenly he mysteriously repeated on "I'm Claude, an AI assistant created by Anthropic - not a "language" ", heh wut?

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They all are trained by each other. Claude says it's DeepSeek if you ask it in Mandarin.
This has been a common issue with the Chinese open weight models. It appears most or all have been trained via distillation on OpenAI and Anthropic models.
If it was, that line is not an indicator. Distillation is done on useful prompts, not on "Who are you?" - "I'm this model of that company".

Name training is always shallow, Claude itself would claim it's GPT-3, GPT-4, or Reddit (heh) when confused. It's just dataset contamination, because the web is full of slop. Never trust self-reported names.

Is theft of theft theft?
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Isn't it great news for us?

You get an open model which is a 95% of Opus 4.6 quality and 80% cheaper in most inference providers and also can run on your own hardware

Also they did the hard parts of:

* crawling the content

* running the fine tuning (or training)

Better than 1 or 2 companies taking control of the whole AI economy

Well yeah, that is what Anthropic is claiming so I'm not surprised.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/23/technology/anthropic-chin...

https://www.anthropic.com/news/detecting-and-preventing-dist...

> We have identified industrial-scale campaigns by three AI laboratories—DeepSeek, Moonshot, and MiniMax—to illicitly extract Claude’s capabilities to improve their own models. These labs generated over 16 million exchanges with Claude through approximately 24,000 fraudulent accounts, in violation of our terms of service and regional access restrictions.