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I was expecting the game from my childhood and was disappointed.
Missing a chance to note (or configure for?) installation on a Raspberry Pi --- that'd make an affordable option to leave powered down, but ready to go in an EMI-shield/Faraday Cage.
Anyone thought about using a Steam Deck with this? Or explored the concept of a "Nomad Deck"?
At that point you should just use an old laptop or small formfactor desktop, since finding monitors will not be too hard in the apocalypse.
Really clever targeting of a niche. I’d be interested to hear if they find success!
So how does that work?
You download it and set it up on your local server to never use it again. It's a project for preppers stuck in their own fantasies.

If this project was actually serious about helping people in SHTF scenarios they would be building a neatly organized library of curated resources in a simple, easily parsed format indexed by some lightweight, local search engine. Who the fuck wants to fuck around with a convoluted docker setup just to browse their wikipedia dump? Local LLM? Are they fucking serious? Who would have the hardware and power to run this when the power grid goes down? This thing should be browsable with a file manager and hostable on a raspberry pi. Ideally it would be a zip file with documents and an executable that can be run on your local machine for search. The amount of unnecessary complexity here is ridiculous.

Also maps on a server? What's the point? If you're prepping you want those on paper.

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turns out I have the same setup (sans local LLMs - they are pretty useless on 2018 cards) but in Obsidian :)

whatever I think might be useful later, I capture through the web clipper extension. [0]

[0]: https://obsidian.md/clipper

I like the idea of an LLM that acts as a public knowledge base. But that doomsday framing on the site is pretty annoying.
There are internet and electricity outages in many places over the world, controlled and uncontrolled. Also natural desasters take out infrastructure at least temporarily.

One "popular" example for those whose horizon doesn't extend over US country borders:

"Hurricane Katrina devastated communications infrastructure across the Gulf Coast, incapacitating telephone service, police and fire dispatch centers, and emergency radio systems. Almost three million customer phone lines were knocked out, telephone switching centers were seriously damaged, and 1,477 cell towers were incapacitated. Most of the radio stations and many television stations in the New Orleans area were knocked off the air. Paul McHale, the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Homeland Defense, summarized the damage by stating, “The magnitude of the storm was such that the local communications system wasn’t simply degraded; it was, at least for a period of time, destroyed."

https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/reports/katrina-...

"Our preparedness culture must also emphasize the importance of citizen and community preparedness. […] Thus, citizens and communities can help themselves by becoming more prepared. If every family maintained the resources to live in their homes without electricity and running water for three days, we could allocate more Federal, State, and local response resources to saving lives. Similarly, if every family developed their own emergency preparedness plan, they almost certainly would reduce the demand for outside emergency resources. As the 9/11 Commission Report states, “One clear lesson of September 11 is that individual civilians need to take responsibility for maximizing the probability that they will survive, should disaster strike."

https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/reports/katrina-...

What doomsday framing? Where on the site does it talk about anything resembling "doomsday?"
I like this idea! I don't need the LLM bits, and want it to run on an old Android tablet I have lying around. Can anyone recommend similar software where I can get wikipedia / street maps / useful tutorial videos nicely packaged for offline use?
Kiwix has an Android app, that'll do Wikipedia and a bunch of other resources. You can get free offline maps from HERE maps or use something like Open Map from Fdroid that uses Open Street Map.
So this thing is based on Kiwix, which is based on the ZIM file format.

In the meanwhile, wikipedia ships wikidata, which uses RDF dumps (and probably 8x less compressed than it should be).

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_download

There is room for a third option leveraging commercial columnar database research.

https://adsharma.github.io/duckdb-wikidata-compression/

And for those who are only vaguely familiar, this ZIM file format is not the same as the https://zim-wiki.org one.
I really curious about what the world of archival formats is like - is there consensus? are the most-used formats actually any good and well-supported,and self documenting?
> and probably 8x less compressed than it should be

ZIM uses zstd so it is pretty compressed--but the thing that takes a lot of room is actually the full-text search index built in to each ZIM file.

Unfortunately the UI of kiwix-serve search doesn't take full advantage of this and the search experience kinda sucks...

Have you done anything useful with RDF? Seems like it is just one of those things universities spend money on and it doesn't really do anything

In a world where this is useful, you aren't going to be spending your precious battery on running an LLM...
See I really want this in a simpler format. Like a single file embedded database on my filesystem that I can point a single/or few tools at for my model to use when it needs.
It could use some own wisdom not to use nodejs..
Why does it have to have AI? Ugh.
Because if you're stuck in your underground bunker, who else can you talk to?
I'm a fan of "civilization in a box" kinds of projects. However the ZIM file format leaves a lot to be desired in 2026. I've been exploring a refreshed, alternative approach: https://github.com/stazelabs/oza

I do think having an LLM as an optional "sidecar" is a useful approach. If you can run a meaningful Ollama instance alongside your content, great!

ZIM or not, I think the “LLM as optional sidecar” part is the right idea.

The durable asset is the knowledge base itself. A local model can be useful on top, but it should stay a layer, not become the dependency.

>Knowledge That Never Goes Offline

>What is Project N.O.M.A.D.? Node for Offline Media, Archives, and Data

That's the first header, and the first sentence of the first paragraph, and I'm confused.

Closing on 40 acres in Panama for an eco-resort.

I was planning to build my own offline repository, but will check out this repo.

There's a company which sells something like this, as "Prepper Disk".[1]

In the 1950s, US Civil Defense had a set of microfilms on how to rebuild society. These were packaged with a sunlight reader and stored in larger fallout shelters. Someone should find one of those.

[1] https://www.prepperdisk.com/

Normally I cringe at doomsday preppers but given how many dictators out there love the idea to cut their country off Internet whenever anything starts going not in their favor, I imagine a lot of people may find this useful.

I wouldn’t want to lose access to knowledge how to fix a sink or which medication is better, just because the local kingface currently feels that free exchange of opinions about him threatens his kingship.

> Normally I cringe at doomsday preppers

The doomsday preppers with a scarcity mindset and a bunker full of tin cans and military surplus make for good TV, but plenty of "preppers" don't look like that.

They also have a well-stocked pantry but focus more on strengthening the community to absorb shocks. Things like mutual aid networks, skill sharing, tool libraries, noodling with GMRS/HAM/LoRa comms, going on camping trips, helping each other out with kitchen gardens, and general community resilience. This approach doesn't cover every disaster scenario but it seems like a more pleasant (and realistic) option for the ones it does cover. And if nothing truly bad happens then at least they got to spend time doing things like gardening with their neighbors.

Being able to have offline Wikipedia, maps, and educational tools would be useful in either case but potentially even more so as a community resource because there are only so many skills each individual can learn.