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I'm pretty uneasy about legal action against the subscribers themselves. If you can prove intent, maybe? But I'd argue many or even most don't realize they're doing anything illegal.

These IPTV companies, in my experience, never advertise that it's illegal. It's just give us money for a lot of TV channels, just like a cable company does.

>most don't realize they're doing anything illegal

I'm not sure they are. I watch stuff on youtube and some probably violates someone's copyright which is an issue for the people posting it but I'm not sure I've broken the law by watching it? Obviously laws vary by which legal system you are involved with.

The colloquial term for these services/devices in Ireland is "dodgy box", alluding to the box of shady origins you hook up to your tv.

I'm pretty sure most users know that using the service is... "dodgy".

Paying for this via a bank is just asking for trouble!

Everyone knows it's illegal in the UK and Ireland. They also think they won't get any punishment. Which is the point of this judgement.
Huh, Ireland has copied English law so precisely that it also has Norwich Pharmacal and Anton Pillar orders?

(De anonymozation of third parties and non-crime search warrants respectively)

Sky should sue the AI companies if they want to protect their copyright. Anything else is a joke and an insult to fair laws.
honestly if you pay to pirate, you kinda deserve it (same with the Plex share and Kodi guys), I have so many IPTV streams available for free, there is no time for me to watch them all, I can watch F1 from like 3-4 different streams, same with MotoGP, NLHTV, NBATV, I had olympics from like 10 different TV channels including Spanish (Teledeporte), Hungarian (M4 Sport), Serbian, Croatian, Lithuanian, Chinese, Czech, Slovak, German and dunno what else, you just need to know where to look [1]

[1] https://youtu.be/Fb5-Lts5EPs?si=18f8_A5ky-7kw_XW&t=131

this is probably good start for amateurs (you can watch them in VLC through CTRL+N or just install on Android TV some viewer like OTT Navigator)

https://github.com/iptv-org/iptv/blob/master/PLAYLISTS.md

When I worked at Sky building tests for their set top boxes, part of the tour of the site involved then showing off / gloating about how they go after people - it left a bad taste in the mouth.
This won't do anything. They'll just take crypto from now on, and the boxes will start running over a VPN of some kind, I'm sure.

Personally I would never do piracy without both of these protections. It's not perfect but it doesn't matter. You just have to be harder to catch than the lowest hanging fruit.

Like the guy running from a bear said to the other guy: I don't have to outrun the bear, just to be faster than you :)

I wonder why all those articles about video streaming pirates use the term IPTV to describe illegal video streaming services.

IPTV is a term for some clearly standardized and perfectly legal technology to deliver television services. Check the wikipedia page and definitions maybe [0]

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Protocol_television