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Can anyone tell if me there's ever been a substantial conversatino about this topic on HN? I see occasional threads that more or less whisper about it but never a major post where people really discuss it openly.
Nobody wants to be subject of a false SA accusation, leave alone something as dramatic as this.

So It's very natural for people to give benefit of doubt and stay silent when these allegations have not been proven. Even those who absolutely hate Sam Altman for other reasons.

Sam Altman gets accused of raping his own sister.

Sam Altman gets accused of murdering a whistleblower employee.

Sam Altman gets accused of lying and cheating the board and gets ousted.

Bro is either cartoonishly evil or something else.

Is this article just plagiarized from the Reuters one from the day before?

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/judge-now-dismisses...

It's not plagiarized; it's the same article. The Independent licenses articles from wire services like Reuters. It includes the same byline.

Most news actually originates with wire services. News organizations collect the stories that seem relevant to their readership and run them. Very few actually gather news themselves, especially for news outside their immediate domain.

The wire services also gather news from the original news sources (say, a local newspaper writing about news in their area) and licenses it out to others who might be interested. In this case, the journalist worked directly for Reuters.

Reuters is a well-respected source, and about as close as you'll find to getting "just the facts".

> The Altman family has said Annie Altman has mental health challenges

I can imagine if you're been raped by your brother during childhood.

But of course now nobody will take her seriously because she has mental problems and Altman is a tech giant.

Not saying she's necessarily true. And you can probably never really find out the truth about this. But I think it's noticeable that there are these issues in their family. And not surprising that heavily traumatized children end up being narcissistic psychopaths.