Usually threads like this fill up with comments about how "think of the children" is always a lie used to justify something draconian. I agree with that to an extent, but for those who think that applies here, is there _nothing_ we can do as a society to address this? I'd like a better answer than "let parents deal with it," and the whole "this wouldn't be a problem if america wasn't so puritanical maaaaaan" argument is total bullshit that completely ignores the young girls who get hurt by this.
I think a pretty good portion of parents would agree with a blanket "your phone shall not be seen during school hours" policy. Something that would probably need to be decided per-district
over the past 20 years technology has become more and more catastrophic for children. i suspect a large number of grownups who oppose child safety legislation don't really grasp the bleakness. they project their idea of a technology that they grew up with. they don't get to see the kind of data that policymakers, healthcare providers and LEAs see. i'm not saying the proposed legislation is justified. but i don't think the people behind it are necessarily draconian
1. This has always been possible but the bar has been lowered to barely above typing “her, but nude!”. Opposed to a talented photoshop or pencil artist doing this previously. Is the issue scale?
2. Lots of things have been illegal and immoral without tools. Assault for example. We don’t really have to deal with those things on a large basis. The difference here is effectively thought crime until distribution takes place and then it’s just another form of assault right? We already have laws on bullying and assault, no?
Like I said… skipping ahead, let me guess, For The Children; we must block local models, AI except for The NYSE Chosen Ones, encryption, and must have digital ID to use everything. Tell me this article is in favor of anything else.
As soon as you figure out that everything you read at large outlets, esp those owned by Condé Nast is directly written to affect a stock price somewhere it becomes a little exhausting.
That should count as distribution of CP and be punished like it is, each time. I guarantee you the first time a boy will be faced with 15 years, the media will run hard with the story and it will calm everyone down.
Maybe, just maybe, the previous generation (I include myself here) have lost the plot raising/educating children and are breeding just absolute disrespectful, egotistical, attention seeking assholes as younger generations.
Teachers in the classrooms have been globally sounding the alarms for decades about the loss of discipline, the loss of basic manners, the loss of respect for authority, the loss of empathy, the attention issues (attention seeking and attention impairment), the increase entitlement, the inability to cope with negatives, the increase in illiteracy, etc.. No one has listened. Then things go wrong and we blame the teachers.
It is ok for kids to be mischievous. It is ok for young adults to take the piss out of each other in a healthy way. But this looks to me like an education problem. That kind of value based education where parents used to educate kids to be compassionate to each other, to respect each other and to f**ng understand that if a moment of fun with some friends could ruin someone else's life maybe it is not worth being the cool dude for 5 minutes. We have lost that. Most kids do not have these values these days.
But what did we expect? We have been systematically ditching those values. We have an older generation now that is selfish, egotistical, careless and dismissive with anything that it is not them and their belief framework whatever that is. We have polarised to the extent of hatred. And this is showing in society. It is showing in our kids.
I don't think tech is to blame. I don't think kids are to blame. This might be our fault.
Maybe, just maybe, prudish attitudes regarding sex weren't arbitrary rules invented by a patriarchal society but are actually rooted in human behaviour, checks that kept our more debased impulses in line. Not something to be toppled in the name of progress, culture, and sophistication without any regard for second-order consequences.
For what is worth, coming to Canada and having kids here, I noticed how much time in school is invested in talking about emotions, learning to interact with other humans, taking care of others.
A huge difference with my country of origin: Italy.
That stuff simply is not taught in school.
I'd like to think that this is the reason why canadians are considered so polite,but I guess I will see the results in 15 years from now.
I'm pretty sure we've given up on morality as a society, in the US at least.
In the past 10 years in America, we have twice elected as president a person with the lowest morals, certainly the most vulgar, the most openly racist, sexist and misogynistic, the most blatantly dishonest and untruthful, with the least amount of integrity, the most openly narcissistic, the most entitled, with the least amount of respect and empathy for others, and with no sense of morality or even basic manners, of any president in US history. And that's just him as an individual, not even talking about policies.
How are we surprised that kids are acting like assholes when close to half the parents in the country support such an odious character?
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1. This has always been possible but the bar has been lowered to barely above typing “her, but nude!”. Opposed to a talented photoshop or pencil artist doing this previously. Is the issue scale?
2. Lots of things have been illegal and immoral without tools. Assault for example. We don’t really have to deal with those things on a large basis. The difference here is effectively thought crime until distribution takes place and then it’s just another form of assault right? We already have laws on bullying and assault, no?
Like I said… skipping ahead, let me guess, For The Children; we must block local models, AI except for The NYSE Chosen Ones, encryption, and must have digital ID to use everything. Tell me this article is in favor of anything else.
As soon as you figure out that everything you read at large outlets, esp those owned by Condé Nast is directly written to affect a stock price somewhere it becomes a little exhausting.
Sure it's distasteful, but it's no different to cutting and pasting heads onto porn stars as was done plenty before.
I'm not saying there's entirely no harm in that, it's obviously a form of bullying, but AI does not make it novel, or a crisis.
The crux of the issue is that revenge porn laws do not extend to digitally manipulated images in most jurisdictions.
Teachers in the classrooms have been globally sounding the alarms for decades about the loss of discipline, the loss of basic manners, the loss of respect for authority, the loss of empathy, the attention issues (attention seeking and attention impairment), the increase entitlement, the inability to cope with negatives, the increase in illiteracy, etc.. No one has listened. Then things go wrong and we blame the teachers.
It is ok for kids to be mischievous. It is ok for young adults to take the piss out of each other in a healthy way. But this looks to me like an education problem. That kind of value based education where parents used to educate kids to be compassionate to each other, to respect each other and to f**ng understand that if a moment of fun with some friends could ruin someone else's life maybe it is not worth being the cool dude for 5 minutes. We have lost that. Most kids do not have these values these days.
But what did we expect? We have been systematically ditching those values. We have an older generation now that is selfish, egotistical, careless and dismissive with anything that it is not them and their belief framework whatever that is. We have polarised to the extent of hatred. And this is showing in society. It is showing in our kids.
I don't think tech is to blame. I don't think kids are to blame. This might be our fault.
A huge difference with my country of origin: Italy.
That stuff simply is not taught in school.
I'd like to think that this is the reason why canadians are considered so polite,but I guess I will see the results in 15 years from now.
In the past 10 years in America, we have twice elected as president a person with the lowest morals, certainly the most vulgar, the most openly racist, sexist and misogynistic, the most blatantly dishonest and untruthful, with the least amount of integrity, the most openly narcissistic, the most entitled, with the least amount of respect and empathy for others, and with no sense of morality or even basic manners, of any president in US history. And that's just him as an individual, not even talking about policies.
How are we surprised that kids are acting like assholes when close to half the parents in the country support such an odious character?