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woeirua
Hmm. Looks like DeepSeek is just about 2 months behind the leaders now.
cmrdporcupine
Pricing: https://api-docs.deepseek.com/quick_start/pricing

"Pro" $3.48 / 1M output tokens vs $4.40 for GLM 5.1 or $4.00 for Kimi K2.6

"Flash" is only $0.28 / 1M and seems quite competent

(EDIT: Note that if you hit the setting that opencode etc hit (deepseek-chat / deepseek-reasoner) for DeepSeek API, it appears to be "flash".)

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taosx
So the R line (R2) is discontinued or folder back into v4 right?
anonzzzies
From this thread [0] I can assume that because, while 1.6T, it is A49B, it can run (theoretically, very slow maybe) locally on consumer hardeware, or is that wrong?

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47864835

mark_l_watson
The flash version is smaller, I think around 200B parameters and is cheap to run.
halJordan
No because you don't know which 49 is needed until the moment it's needed
statements
The quality of this model vs the price is an insane value deal.
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mark_l_watson
I used the flash version on a tricky Common Lisp coding problem this morning. The first cut of the new library had a runtime error. I was running in a simple REPL using:

ollama run deepseek-v4-flash:cloud

so I had to feed the generated code and the error back into the REPL manually, but it nailed it the second time, and the Common Lisp code was very good.